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Projects John Gerber's 1920's sprint car

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by T__N__A, Nov 23, 2015.

  1. T__N__A
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    Here is a copy of John Gerber's 1920s sprint car.... the Whippet Special that I built.

    Model T engine with an SR Fronty OHV conversion.
    Whippet grill she'll
    Modified T frame
    87" wheel base
    21" Hayes fronts
    20" Buffalo Rears
    Chevrolet 490 front axle
    Small drum Ruckstel



    For more build pics you can check them out on my instagram @santiagormichael
     

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  2. T__N__A
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    Here is the original Whippet Special
     

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  3. hotcoupe
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    that looks like a FIRST class job! thanx for posting, any more images/details?
    tom
     
  4. Pete
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    Mike....

    In fucking sane!!! Looks killer.
     

  5. T__N__A
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    Here's a few more build pics....
     

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  6. A BIG wow!!!!
     
  7. T__N__A
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    Front and rear whish bones
     

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  8. T__N__A
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    Fat man steering wheel
     

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  9. flyin-t
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    Very cool! I'm sure you have his book?
     
  10. The37Kid
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    WOW! That looks great! Is the offset something Gerber had in his car or artistic licence on your part? I'm slowly putting a Bobtail together based on the RAJO Jack and Noel Bullock cars. Sonething about those Bobtails that just looks so right. Bob
     
  11. T__N__A
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    Yup, read it twice now!
     
  12. flyin-t
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    I figured you did with your knowledge of the chassis set up but wanted to make sure incase you needed any scans.
     
  13. T__N__A
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    That's the way Gerber did it, I tried to build the cars as close as I could based on pictures. The offset help with the weight distribution.

    Both the Rajo Jack car and Bullock cars are really cool cars!!
     
  14. T__N__A
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    Thanks Pete!!
     
  15. rust&patina
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    Wow . . . Awesome :cool:
     
  16. KoolKat-57
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    from Dublin, OH

    That's just flat out COOL!
    Great job, and probably way nicer than the original
    KK
     
  17. The37Kid
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    Tell us about the brake, just something to set it into the turns? Bob
     
  18. T__N__A
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    It still has the stock transmission brake. we added an aftermarket brakes that slide over the rear drums. Similarly to rocket mountain brakes. This is hand operated brake only
     
  19. Mike - Super cool ride - great to see your disipline to honor Gerbers simply intricate design philosophy. This (your) car is the racer I would want in my stable.
     
  20. Jalopy Joker
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  21. The37Kid
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    OK, So the right side gets a drum also? On second thought it now looks like you have a 26-27 axle housing on the left side and a pre '26 on the right. Bob
     
  22. F-head
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    Mike
    You and Paul are the shit
    that thing is Badass
    what a bummer that the ROG was weathered out
    the fab work on that thing is the tits
    cheers to you guys
    B
     
  23. Doodlrodz
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    Man you rule, been a long time since I've seen pics. of it but it just keeps getting better & better great job.
     
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  26. T__N__A
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    This pic your looking at has a 26-27 large drum ruckstel housing on it for mock up. We needed the ruckstel housing for building the seat and shifter clearance while the early small drum rear-end was getting rebuilt. Sorry for the confusion
     
  27. T__N__A
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    Here is the front spring, bent forward the same way John Gerber did his. This allows the car to sit extremely low. The frame and axle would hit.
     

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  28. Binger
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    Great looking car. I like the Fat Man steering wheel. I have one like that stashed away looking for a good place to use it.
     
  29. alchemy
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    Couple questions: Any drive time in it yet? I saw on Intsagram that you tack welded the seam in the bones every couple inches. Has this shown any indication for cracking? I was going to do a similar application with front T bones, but thought I'd need to weld them solid.

    What radiator did you use? Custom made to fit the Whippet shell? Any close up pics of it and how the tapered sides look?

    Curving and re-tempering your spring really intrigues me. Could you explain the process more here? Have you done this before, and how reliable is the process to stay tempered?

    Are those the Lester tires like Universal sells? Just a regular sipe like the stock car guys use?
     

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