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JOE WILHELM CUSTOMS

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by oldchevyseller, Aug 27, 2004.

  1. oldchevyseller
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    in looking at the 57 chrysler post , i started looking at joe wilhelm's stuff, he did quite afew nice machines ,i like the WILD DREAM no round tub back end i like the swooped fins, any one have show pics of it? i cant quite figure the front end also, is this something that someo ne

    is doing today? a coil sprung drop axle,dont know of any kits out there some one must be running a similar front, just looking to throw a few old ideas back into the ring
     

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  2. crewcutkid
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    Even though the craftsmanship seems extraordinary, the car itself is kinda, well, ugly. A few tweaks could make it right-
    That's my opinion of said car. As far as the custom shop, I have to respect anybody who takes the time to put stuff like this together- no matter what the reception of the car may end up being.
    -Crew
     
  3. oldchevyseller
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    yeah i think some changes, this could be a nice look, i do think
     
  4. oldchevyseller
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    a coil sprung drop axle,dont know of any kits out there some one must be running a similar front, just looking to throw a few old ideas back into the ring

    hello anyone?
     
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  5. Mutt
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    I know of two cars with coil spring straight axles - a '32 Chev coupe, and a T-bucket. Neither looked very good because of the bulk. I believe Speedway has, or used to have, the buckets and springs. Both owners expressed a desire to change to coilovers or transverse spring. I believe both were tube axles, also.

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  6. cabong
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    I realize it's been a while since you posted this comment on the 'Wild Dream', but thought I'd respond. The car is different by todays standards, but in 1968 it was nice enough to win the AMBR trophy at the Oakland Roadster show. It had some changes made since the purple rendition, primarily in the grille. People told Joe it looked like a '32 ford, and he had had fabricated it, so he changes the looks. It was gold in 1968. Interestingly, it was shown in '63 or '64, and would have won, but at the time it didn't run, and that was manditory to win the AMBR. The reason it didn't run was that he had not completed the intake manifold, which had 2 side draft carbs tucked into the valley space, similar to the Ford Y-block unit used on boats. The intire car was hand fabricated, with the body being all aluminum. It had a small block chev and 4-speed. The car is still owned by the person that had commissioned Joe to build it. I had the good fortune of taking the car to the 50th Roadster show aniversary in '99. It remains unchanged and in excellent condition.
     
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  7. gnichols
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    Old post revived! Where is this car now? Anyone know? I know there were model kits of it by AMT / MPC back in the day. I always like it and the other open wheel styled "show rods." Too bad we don't see more of them now. Gary
     
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  8. gnichols
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    Bump for the cronically bored. Any ideas where this car is? Or was, last time seen in public? Gary
     
  9. It showed up on the "book of face" today ... still in its circa 1968 "Gold" paint:

    Joe Wilhelm's Wild Dream June 2017 - Jeff Cimoli (1).jpg
    Joe Wilhelm's Wild Dream June 2017 - Jeff Cimoli (2).jpg
    Joe Wilhelm's Wild Dream June 2017 - Jeff Cimoli (3).jpg
    Photos by Jeff Cimoli
     
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  10. AMT Joe Wilhelm's WILD DREAM (& Don Tognotti's KING T) model (1).jpg
    AMT Joe Wilhelm's WILD DREAM (& Don Tognotti's KING T) model (2).jpg AMT Joe Wilhelm's WILD DREAM (& Don Tognotti's KING T) model (3).jpg
    AMT Joe Wilhelm's WILD DREAM (& Don Tognotti's KING T) model (4).jpg AMT Joe Wilhelm's WILD DREAM (& Don Tognotti's KING T) model (5).jpg AMT Joe Wilhelm's WILD DREAM (& Don Tognotti's KING T) model (7).jpg
    AMT Joe Wilhelm's WILD DREAM (& Don Tognotti's KING T) model (6).jpg AMT Joe Wilhelm's WILD DREAM (& Don Tognotti's KING T) model (9).jpg AMT Joe Wilhelm's WILD DREAM (& Don Tognotti's KING T) model (8).jpg
    AMT kit


    mpc-wilhelms-wonder-wild-dream (1).jpg
    mpc-wilhelms-wonder-wild-dream (2).jpg mpc-wilhelms-wonder-wild-dream (3).jpg
    MPC kit
     
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  11. Tom davison
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    Joe was pretty much a traditional customizer.

    He did go off the deep end a couple of times, but as someone else noted, the T was state-of-the-art in '63.... Rod and Custom cover car, etc. The Wild Dream's fit and finish was second to none in those days.

    I had the pleasure of hanging out with Joe when he came to the Midwest with the T. Soft-spoken, humble, first class person.

    Haters don't forget, he also did the Cliff Inman Chrysler. Screen Shot 2017-06-22 at 2.46.06 PM.png
     
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  12. 49ratfink
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    I am 99% sure that garage is at the home of a buddy of mine in San Jose. I'll have to give him a call and see what he is doing with it.
     
  13. Joe Wilhelm's Wild Dream (R&C Jan '64 cover).jpg
    Joe Wilhelm's Wild Dream (Petersen Archives photo).jpg
     
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  14. "Show Cards" (postcards):

    Joe Wilhelm's Wild Dream - 1964 B&W Postcard.jpg
    Joe Wilhelm's Wild Dream - 1964 Postcard.jpg
     
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  15. Joe Wilhelm's Wild Dream at car show (Jamie Barter collection).jpg
    image from the @Jimmy B archives
     
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  16. Joe Wilhelm's Wild Dream (by Phil Alloy) - 1.jpg
    Joe Wilhelm's Wild Dream (by Phil Alloy) - 2.jpg
    1965 photos by Phillip Alloy
     
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  17. cabong
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  18. @cabong Now that you're back, how about an update on the '58.....
     
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  19. Agreed!

    Be sure to checkout the following:
     
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  20. cabong
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    Hey Sancho, I'll update the "quads in a 1957 Ford" thread in a couple days. There's still a couple things to finish, but I've been having too much fun racing the bugger!!! Thanks for the interest !!
     
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  21. I remember when the car was debuted. Really caused a stir. I think it is beautiful, I even made a version back then from a T kit. Never did understand the slicks on the front end though!
     
  22. Hyfire
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    I love it. What a clean looking little car. Throw the original tires and wheels on and it's good to go!

    So who has it and what are they going to do with it?
     
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  23. Josh (@Hyfire) -

    Wilhelm's "Wild Dream" was built for John Hernandez.

    Unfortunately, after the 1968 GNRS (where it tied for the AMBR), Mr. Hernandez rarely took it out of storage :(

    Fast forward almost 50 years (June 2017) ... and Hernandez sold it to Jeff Cimoli (of the Goombahs Car Club).

    Cimoli plans to freshen the car up and start showing it again! :D
     
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  24. I found yet another vintgage pic of Wilhelm's "Wild Dream" ... a Robert Hegge photo taken at the '64 Detroit Autorama:

    1964 Detroit Autorama (by Bob Hegge).jpg
     
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  25. Hyfire
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    Beautiful! Great piece of history. I hope the new owner sits down for a long video taped talking session with Mr. Hernandez.
     
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  27. Hermanpullersgarage
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    I saw the Cliff Inman Chrysler many times in the mid sixties at Bob's Big Boy in Pasadena, Ca. It always seemed to be not much higher than curb on Colorado Blvd. Beautiful car.
     
  28. Joe didn't build that many notable cars; the 'Wild T' and Cliff Inman's Chrysler are the two most mentioned, but he also built the much-maligned by some 'Mark Mist' '36 Ford coupe. The Chrysler always struck me as more of a mild custom, the top chop notwithstanding. Personally, I've always liked the Mark Mist (first version) and felt that it (along with Cushenberry's 'Matador') as one of the very best pre-war-based radical customs. Certainly less 'trendy' than the 'Wild T', which IMO was a last-gasp expression of fifties styling. In any case, he generally avoided the wretched excess some builders displayed and his craftsmanship was second to none.
     
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