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History Jason Pall- Bear Metal Customs

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Genes12320, Aug 24, 2021.

  1. Genes12320
    Joined: Dec 1, 2007
    Posts: 97

    Genes12320
    Member

    I bought and paid for parts from Jason Pall at Bear Metal Customs in Morrow Bay, California. He has now gone dark on me. I left messages at shop and did not get a return call. He has deleted his instagram account. I text and no response. He does not answer the phone and voice mail is full. Does anyone have any info?
     
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  2. Don't know if it's much help but it looks like his instagram account was hacked/stolen and he is trying to get it back. Instagram may have shut it down while they sort it out. Rochelle_bearmetalcustoms still has an account and said not to do anything with the new account and they are trying to get it back. Hope you didn't get scammed by the guy that hacked him.
     
  3. Genes12320
    Joined: Dec 1, 2007
    Posts: 97

    Genes12320
    Member

    I spoke to Jason multiple times on his phone, instagram, and shop phone. This is not a case of stolen, or hacked account. He told me that he was having some health issues, so I was very patient for a while. Now, I want my parts or my money back.
     
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  4. Sporty45
    Joined: Jun 1, 2015
    Posts: 1,043

    Sporty45
    Member
    from NH Boonies

    If you used a credit card to pay him you can always call the card company and they will get ahold of him, and should refund you if they can't get it resolved.
     


  5. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this
     
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  6. I've bought a few things from him. Definitely took awhile to ship. And his communication was not great....but I always got the parts...eventuality
     
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  7. Bear Metal Kustoms
    Joined: Jul 31, 2004
    Posts: 1,857

    Bear Metal Kustoms
    Alliance Vendor

    First of all... I had someone bring this post to my attention.. I haven't been on here in years... Second... YES, I was hacked, guy stole my IG, FB, etc... I am locked out...att thinks my phone was cloned and they gained access.. I managed to revert my FB but not my ig..or phone yet... calls go straight to a voicemail that I am not able to answer.. I have tried calling but his phone goes to voicemail. I even sent him a message using a different ig account that I would call him.. but no reply to that message either.. I have been out of the shop.. my guys aren't gonna say he's out with medical issues... they just say I'm out... I will gladly refund you.. and I'll keep the parts...
     
  8. Genes12320
    Joined: Dec 1, 2007
    Posts: 97

    Genes12320
    Member

    We have made contact today. It looks like everything is OK.
     
  9. alanp561
    Joined: Oct 1, 2017
    Posts: 2,412

    alanp561
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Good, I love a happy ending:)
     
  10. hotrodjack33
    Joined: Aug 19, 2019
    Posts: 3,637

    hotrodjack33
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I'm glad everything got resolved...:D
    "Happy Endings" usually cost me about $100;):D
     
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  11. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    Posts: 9,048

    Budget36
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    You left out the cost of those blue pills….
     
  12. hotrodjack33
    Joined: Aug 19, 2019
    Posts: 3,637

    hotrodjack33
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I eat those little bastards like candy. The best part is, I have a place to hang my washcloth in the shower.;):rolleyes:
     
  13. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    Posts: 9,048

    Budget36
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I tried them once. Spent a weekend in jail. Dumb me listened to the radio ad” if after 4 hours call a doctor”. Thought I’d go to the ER, them RNs take their job seriously…what’s a guy to do?
    Oh well, OP got things worked out!
     
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  14. Sky Six
    Joined: Mar 15, 2018
    Posts: 2,194

    Sky Six
    Member
    from Arizona

    Damn, a "C" note !
    That's way out of my league.:(
     
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  15. mickeyc
    Joined: Jul 8, 2008
    Posts: 1,363

    mickeyc
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I had some dealings with Jason a few years ago when I was
    on an extended job project at Diablo Canyon. He procured some parts
    for me that were out of production at the time. Jason and his wife Rochelle
    were very cordial towards me while I was in the area. They also graciously
    stored a Model A I had purchased locally until I left the area. I am glad all is
    well with them and I hope Jasons heath issues are being resolved.
    I find them upstanding business and personable folks indeed.
     
  16. Genes12320
    Joined: Dec 1, 2007
    Posts: 97

    Genes12320
    Member

    Well, So much for the happy ending. Jason Pall took my 7K for the Jenkins headed banger engine last February and has just strung me along, but now has just gone dark. I am looking into how I go about pressing charges for fraud. To top it off, I meet Cedric Meeks at TROG in October, and find out that Jason got the engine from Cedric and still owes him for it. Beware of Jason Pall and Bear Metal Kustoms. I am thinking that I will need to contact FBI since I am in Maryland and he is in California. 5K was send by mail, so maybe Mail Fraud ? Maybe I contact Postal Inspector ?
     
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  17. SS327
    Joined: Sep 11, 2017
    Posts: 1,124

    SS327

    Contact the post office and ask how to proceed. Contact FBI and your’s and his local police departments and file a complaint ASAP!
     
  18. hotrodjack33
    Joined: Aug 19, 2019
    Posts: 3,637

    hotrodjack33
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I just checked out their website...a lot of really nice work...BUT, it looks more like a corporation than a hot rod shop...and lost it's soul:(. Jason has probably gotten "too big for his britches":(.
     
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  19. Since Jason is still listed as Alliance vendor @Ryan should know.

    There is a trend I have seen that folks are listed as Alliance Vendors and in Jason's words "I haven't been on here in years" I think the rolls need to be purged of these vendors that are not active or actively selling on the board. I know there are more of them. My thinking is, if they have no skin in the game they have no reason to deliver.
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2022
  20. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
    Posts: 20,510

    Ryan
    ADMINISTRATOR
    Staff Member

    If I can help at all, please hollar at me.

    Also,,, given this thread, I’ve removed him from the Alliance.
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2022
  21. Genes12320
    Joined: Dec 1, 2007
    Posts: 97

    Genes12320
    Member

    With this post and an Insstagram post yesterday, he messaged me that he is sending a refund. I will update of any movement. I paid him over a year ago.
     
  22. Genes12320
    Joined: Dec 1, 2007
    Posts: 97

    Genes12320
    Member

    Jason sent me a check for 4K of the 7 towards a refund. He said he will get the balance shortly. I good step in the right direction.
     
  23. alanp561
    Joined: Oct 1, 2017
    Posts: 2,412

    alanp561
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I was premature with the " happy ending " thing earlier so now I'm just hoping for a happy ending:rolleyes::)
     
  24. ...Well, so far it's 4/7th of the way to a happy ending.:D:eek:
     
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  25. Bo Golson
    Joined: Mar 24, 2022
    Posts: 2

    Bo Golson

    Well Jason Pall is Bankrupt and has filed in court. He had my truck for over 4 years and did nothing with $4700 deposit for work not done. Was lucky as at the end of Dec 2021 he called and told me he had to be out of his building. I went up to Morro Bay and called for a tow to get my truck. It is now March 24TH and NO refund from this thief, he also stole my AC/Delco Speedometer from my truck and promised to return it to me. He is the biggest liar around and will say anything to change the problem you have with him. when i pulled my truck out there were quite a few cars in for work, so I hope the owners were able to get them out in time!!!
     
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  26. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    Posts: 9,048

    Budget36
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    That’s a pisser on the $$, but bright side is you were able to get your truck back.
    As a side note, I’d hope there are laws in place aimed at business that have to shut down and have others property in their possession, that requires good faith effort to contact the owners to retrieve their property. I mean from whomever owns or takes over the property.
     
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  27. dan31
    Joined: Jul 3, 2011
    Posts: 1,093

    dan31
    Member

    I gotta ask," Was the check any good?". I hope this isn't the case in your situation but often these types will hang you out for the last $2500-3,000 because they know that's what a lawyer will cost so many will give up the chase. Hoping it works out for ya.
     
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  28. Fat47
    Joined: Nov 10, 2007
    Posts: 1,311

    Fat47
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Unfortunately, this is not a unique problem. I've been building rods for a long time (turning 80 in a few months) and I've given up counting the number of rodders that have been stiffed by builders, upholsters, engine guys. You can do a lot of checking but it still comes back to a basic lack of honesty on the part of some people. You can warn people, as this thread and others on HAMB do, but that's generally after the fact. Sad!!!!
     
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  29. Too many of these types of businesses start off with good intentions but wind up becoming what amounts to Ponzi schemes with the cash from new customers not reserved for the new orders but instead, the new cash is used to fund the old, overdue orders and the cycle only gets worse. Eventually, the bubble is so big it has to pop.
    If you are a victim, naturally you tend to feel defrauded....... so you go to the law, and they say, "This is not criminal, it's civil. Get a lawyer and sue". You get the same story from the D.A. and the judge. So you sue someone who "owes" you and you win a "judgment" because it's open and shut and you get a piece of paper that says he "owes" you. Woopie, he doesn't have any money but he "owes" you....... just like before you sued.
     
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  30. mickeyc
    Joined: Jul 8, 2008
    Posts: 1,363

    mickeyc
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    That seems to be a common business method with body and paints shops. At least in this area. I have had
    several friends get caught up in this system with body and paint projects. They of course are not all like this,
    but quite a few seem to be.
     

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