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Technical ***January 2020 Banger Thread. Happy New Year!***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Dec 31, 2019.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 338

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    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
    January 1st
    Resolve to get more done on the banger


    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    email: jimb4e4@gmail.com
    phone: 951-695-7313.


    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498


    Banger basics. another info link list:
    http://www.fordgarage.com/


    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055


    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/


    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html


    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461


    Helpful Model A tools and tips:
    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html


    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109


    Elrod's stuck head tech:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487


    Model A generator to alternator conversion:
    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html


    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173


    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465


    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    New Banger Block in the Works
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/


    Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
    http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm
     
  2. poshdbs
    Joined: Feb 28, 2013
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  3. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    from Colorado

    Signing in from sunny Southern California.
     
  4. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
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    Yep,
    here in sunny so cal
    may 20 be a better year for racing
     
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  5. 97
    Joined: May 18, 2005
    Posts: 1,549

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    It really is already 2020 here, new year, new decade. The 1920s were the decade of the gow job, does that make it 100 years of hotrods ?
     
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  6. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
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    4 hours to go in 2019, will be asleep in 2.
     
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  7. All the best to youse guys in 2020 !
     
  8. pumpman
    Joined: Dec 6, 2010
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    Happy New Years Hamber’s, be safe and stay hoodlums.
     
  9. Johnny Nitro
    Joined: Sep 28, 2005
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    from Chicago

    First check in of the new year!
     
  10. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
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    from wyoming

    Checking in From Wyoming! Happy new year. I am going to be doing a motor swap on a pair of model As this month so as I go along I will post pictures. Putting a freshly rebuilt inserted motor in a roadster and the motor out of the roadster will go in a sedan. Hope to get these swaps done quickly. Also may be putting a Mitchell OD unit in the roadster as well.
     
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  11. Jet96
    Joined: Dec 24, 2012
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    Dang Johnny Nitro you were on it!
    - Checking in for 2020-Happy New Year to you guys!
     
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  12. rwrj
    Joined: Jan 30, 2009
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    from SW Ga

    Checking in. Got my new camshaft installed. Of course, there was an associated adventure, but I won't bore you with all the details. They are in my Shade Tree Speedster thread. Happy New Year, everybody.
     
  13. Jet96
    Joined: Dec 24, 2012
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    Sunday I pulled the transmission lid off my pickup- I really had to square up my shifts from 1st to 2nd haha. 9C996A9E-3B27-45E5-B71C-18C4A90BB81A.jpeg
     
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  14. OLDSMAN
    Joined: Jul 20, 2006
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    Happy New Year to all. It’s hard to believe it’s the start of another year. I have some snow to scoop on my driveway today, just what the wind blew back on it after it was shoveled. Boy do I hate winters like this. Way too much snow for me, it melts and then we get more
     
  15. V4F
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    from middle ca.

    time flies when your old
     

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  16. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
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    29? 29 radiator shell..gonna run the bird till I find a dog at the right price :)
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  17. OLSKOOL57
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    Yes it does !!!! Young Today/Old Tomorrow.
    How about this..............The Older You Get / The Quicker Time Goes.
     
  18. Jet96
    Joined: Dec 24, 2012
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    Got roof about done. Swapped trans lids. I'll rebuild old one as it's front mount ebrake. This weekend will be intake/exhaust. Beautiful afternoon so I 3D3089E8-9BBD-4727-9AD5-CF25CAC3CAEB.jpeg took it for a walk.
     
  19. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 258

    railcarmover

    [​IMG]
    The car was a pickup for a number of years,the body mount holes were broken out and chewed up...didnt check the subframe for true,welded up some cracks,aligned the right door,and did the body work and paint.the doors closed true on the dolly,so I thought I was money..till today.spent all day shimming and truing the body to the frame..shim,pull it down the right door would rack,so remove all bolts add shims and repeat..ended up with the left side true to the rail back to front,the right side climbing from zero in the back back to 3 shims in the front....cant imagine the poor bastard with a phaeton..drive a fella to drink it would..
     
  20. klawockvet
    Joined: May 1, 2012
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    Heading to the machine shop on Friday to pick up the new engine. Hope to have it in the roadster and running by mid January. Then a trip to the GNRS for a maiden voyage. Pictures to follow.
     
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  21. Write something...in ‘17 just before a wee life style alteration I started in on a speedster. Fast forward to 2020 and getting a restart. Second mock up of basic body lines and chassis. 97” wb, 7” engine set back, 8” drop planned for the front and 6” for the rear (will then level the car with myself and gear in it...at 265 I can put a bit of weight on chassis).

    For the fun, Bob and I have a gentlemen’s challenge on our T’s, first goal is tear frame drop in by the 26th.

    Happy New Years.

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  22. PhredH
    Joined: Feb 28, 2015
    Posts: 64

    PhredH

    ARP Head Studs

    Months/years(?) ago I remember someone having kits of ARP cylinder head studs for the Model A engine. The broached allen key end would be nice in this application.

    If this sounds familiar, any sourcing would be appreciated.

    Thanks ins advance.
    Peace, Phred
     
  23. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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    V4F
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    from middle ca.

    what I have learned is that "rolled" threads are the best way to go . many vendors offer these .
     
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  24. Shutter Speed
    Joined: Feb 2, 2017
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    Doin same thing. Notches in forks not that bad, but ball on shift lever is about a cube.

    Hoppy New Year, Boners!
     
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  25. denis4x4
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    Bought them from ARP with the Allen head end along with stainless acorn nuts and washers.
     
  26. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 26,414

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    Happy New Year! Working on the '22 Bobtail, hope to have the kickups installed by the end of the month. Bob
     
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  27. Jet96
    Joined: Dec 24, 2012
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    Shutter Speed- it was curious,on my pickup the gates are hugely worn but the ball just barely. On another the ball was a cube barely bigger than the stem but the gates were almost perfect. The one I ended up using had some wear on both but will work for now.
     
  28. Shutter Speed
    Joined: Feb 2, 2017
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    Yeah @Jet96, hard tellin not knowing what kinda wear+tear these things have suffered.

    It’s my 1st trip inside a banger trans, and I’m rebuilding the “tower” for starters. I’m wondering, with the trans still in place, and with the top open, is there a way to rotate the gears for inspection to determine if a removal/rebuild is necessary?

    Any suggestions? Rear end on jack stands..clutch depressed..slow spin of rear wheel..or?
    I can spin the crank, but would be pretty slow goin back and forth.

    Is my ignorance showing?!
     
  29. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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    V4F
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    from middle ca.

    in neutral , top off , jack up rear & turn wheel . hopefully that will do as you need ……….
     
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  30. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
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    [​IMG]Cut the kickups to match the T chassis by the 26th of this month. That NOS rear crossmember covered the cost of a 1909-13 rear crossmember and front crossmember that will get set back for the engine mount. Bob
     
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