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Technical ***January 2019 Banger Meet - New Banger Dreams***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Jan 1, 2019.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 359


    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
    January 1 - resolutions to finish that banger

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $31.00 for color, $24.00 for B/W (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    phone: 951-695-7313.

    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:

    Banger basics. another info link list:

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post

    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers

    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    Chevy Banger Stuff

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:

    New Banger Block in the Works

    Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
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  2. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
    Posts: 7,290


    Happy New Year.
  3. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 3,550

    from Colorado

  4. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
    Posts: 1,166


    Happy New Years Ya Filthy Animals!!
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  5. Jet96
    Joined: Dec 24, 2012
    Posts: 1,174

    from WY

    211E7B05-78E7-4E70-816A-C0E769B08285.jpeg Had the pickup out last week. Spinning donuts and generally being delinquent with my son and his gf. Good fun!

    -12 this morning,...Bleh...
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  6. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
    Posts: 1,685

    from wyoming

    Happy New Year Banger folks!!
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  7. Shutter Speed
    Joined: Feb 2, 2017
    Posts: 838

    Shutter Speed

    That's the spirit! Try to keep it all year...hope it's a happy one for alluvial!
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  8. Shutter Speed
    Joined: Feb 2, 2017
    Posts: 838

    Shutter Speed

    (That was sposed to be "alluvya")
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  9. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
    Posts: 1,166


    spel czeck
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  10. JT1930
    Joined: Jul 1, 2018
    Posts: 199


    Happy New Year.... 50* out today so we went cruising.

  11. Dustyp489
    Joined: Feb 1, 2008
    Posts: 115


    Just checking in, Happy new year
  12. Shutter Speed
    Joined: Feb 2, 2017
    Posts: 838

    Shutter Speed

    Dammit...too much snow and salt up here!
    You guys're killin me!

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  13. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
    Posts: 3,178


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    Happy new year! Got the 15’s mounted on the rear, still figuring out if I want to run 6.70 whitewalls or 5.00 dirt track tires on the front.

    Parts to rebuild my model b distributor should be here soon.

    My resolution is to drive this thing for more than 20 minutes!!
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  15. 97
    Joined: May 18, 2005
    Posts: 1,598


    What? All at once? :D
  16. Midnight Rider
    Joined: May 13, 2010
    Posts: 26

    Midnight Rider
    from Australia

    red ute at wendys.jpg G'day folks, been over 100 here since Christmas so like seeing the white stuff over there.
    Time to get my Pickup and my sister's Ute going, that's our NY reso.
    Love this place, so will keep in touch more this year too. felix at wendys.jpg
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  17. I mean in total! Usually I drive around my neighborhood
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  18. Check'n in! I'd like to race at AAA Speedway (Fontana)the 17th to 20th of this month; but so far it dosen't look like we'll get 'nuf "Playmates" to have a Group Race)! We have five. We need twelve! RMMR2016.png
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  19. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
    Posts: 4,127

    from middle ca.

    jt1930 ………… did you paint your coupe ?
  20. stubbsrodandcustom
    Joined: Dec 28, 2010
    Posts: 1,283

    from Spring tx

    After a brake failure on my ole 56 pickup, and getting it repaired etc I am back on track to start working on the Coupe again, thinking of pulling the axles and going through everything piece by piece. Aiming to be ready for hotrod hill climb this year, may not drive it all the way from houston but I plan to take it, need a working E brake before going to colorado for sure. Happy New year folks....

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  21. Pulling out an old topic, I know. But living across the pond, and keeping stock G28T cam, is it still doable to use A lifters, without damaging cam/lifters/anything else?
  22. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
    Posts: 1,166


    the issue comes down to the lobe of the cam as it makes contact with the lifter.
    while the initial ramp on the lobe makes contact with the lifter, you have to make sure that the contact area stays on the face of the lifter (in other words the lobe contact does not touch the edge of the lifter). You can check this by using some paint or colored ink on the face of the lifter and then rotating cam over the lobe. the ink or paint should show the contact on the face, and how far away from the edge you are. I have some closer than 1mm from the edge but those motors only last a short time before regrinding cam and lifters. for example, I made only one good pass down course this year before killing the valves and seats.

    Best, John
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  23. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
    Posts: 3,178


    Well explained John.

  24. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
    Posts: 1,166


    Thanks Dan,

    it really isn't that difficult until you start making wild parts.
    I was looking over the Antiquated forum and looking at the Tether cars, was that you on the center point at Whittier Narrows? I haven't seen that place in many years, it looks really good and the cars even cooler.

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  25. Thanks a million, John! :)
    Did think of something like this myself, but if someone knew, I didn’t want to waste half an afternoons work- by checking out my actual setup, I’ll be sure, what I got.
    If I just had a tube of marker blue... guess I’ll try with a white board marker... to be continued!

    Thanks again for the input! :-D

    Keep ‘em kruzin!

  26. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
    Posts: 3,178


    Yes, it is something I used to do a lot. I loved building and modifying them, but like most forms of organized competitions, the politics and assholes drove me away.


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  27. Time to get the mods on this and get ti to some cruises........ No it isn't a gasser, but the look is growing on me. Better get the reversed eye spring in before I change my mind...LOL IMG_0730.jpg
  28. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
    Posts: 1,166


    Nuff Said

    I may have to stop by one weekend, yeah on a free one.........
  29. IMG_1271.JPG Quick question for all my timing gurus out there.

    I have the B distributor in this bone stock A engine. What I thought was a B timing cover, turned out to be a 33-34.

    Is there any way I can time it without using a timing tab, or that cover?
  30. GuyW
    Joined: Feb 23, 2007
    Posts: 548


    B timing is advanced 10 degrees vs A timing, IIRC. Initially time it on the B cover, mark the front pully there, and then measure forward 10 degrees and make the A timing mark. Or start it at the 10* advance, and then retard it by ear...

    Oops, wait: what is the difference between a B cover and 33-34??
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2019

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