The Jalopy Journal
Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Stu D Baker, Sep 5, 2020.
The Studiford is beautiful! What's wrong with you guys?
Well, In MY opinion, any one who can take a 37 slant back, chop it perfectly, lengthen the doors 5", shorten the quarters 5", give it a perfect stance, and paint it perfectly, and make it a GREAT driver besides, well, he's got the talent to pull this little cyclops trick off. So there!!
Thanks Bill. Just to set the record straight, I stretched the doors 6" and setback the quarter 6" . That was over 30 years ago, but who's counting?
Okay. Just a little update on the project. Naturally, any idiot (me) who decides to cut a hole in the center of a 37 Ford grille, has to understand that the grille gets a bunch of support from the center verticle portion. Kind of like a backbone of the part. My goal, as I mentioned in the start, was to INSET the fog light into the grille structure. Need a hole.
DSC00007 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 10:16 AM
Used my sheetmetal template to locate the position, but left the grill bars a tad long. I'm going to want to trim and fit each bar as I move along.
DSC00008 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 10:16 AM
The fog lamp bezel is 4 3/4" diameter, so I need to fabricate a structural piece that will do a couple of things. First, needs to be strong enough to give the grille some strength. Second, it should create a trim ring that the lamp will set into. Already had some various 1/8" strap pieces in my scrap pile, so this piece of 3/4" wide might do the trick.
DSC00009 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 10:16 AM
Then, I wanted to form a perfect circle, about 5 1/2" in diameter. That will allow the lamp to set inside the circle centered with a nice appearing gap. First order, create a square edge on the piece of strap. [GALLERY=media, 574863]DSC00010 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 10:16 AM
DSC00010 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 10:16 AM
Next chore is creating a perfect circle 5 1/2" in diameter. Looking at my hole saw set, which goes to 6", I tried the 5 1/2" and began rolling the strap around the outside while clamping the strap tightly.
DSC00012 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 10:16 AM
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DSC00014 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 10:16 AM
With a bit of trimming, I have a super nice gap, ready for welding and prepping to install on the grille structure.
DSC00016 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 10:16 AM
Well, that's all for today guys and gals. Keep in mind that there are a number of ways to make this modification happen. There are probably many who could do it better, but I'm out behind my house in the crowded garage, just doing what I can, with what I have. Thanks for taking a peek.
Stu, when I saw this photo the first thing I thought was that piece would make a great clock for your garage, a simple battery mechanism and you would have a unique one off piece. HRP
There is no stopping to the man who knows he's right and keeps on coming.
If Val had just not wrecked his coupe.....
Val thought he lost the fog lamp in his garage. Lucky for me (??????) he found it.
Interesting concept. I think the hardest part will be getting it to turn with the wheels.
That's somebody elses idea. All I want to do is recess the fog lamp into the existing grille. I see no real advantage to having a fog lamp turn with the wheels. If it was a regular headlamp, maybe.
That thing is butt ugly. I'm hoping Stu D makes his better.
Actually there is no mention by you in you first post here, to inset the light. It came up later. I think all the negativity was the "cut a hole and stick it in there" you mentioned at the start.
Once Lippy mentioned about Frenching it in, I got real warm to the idea.
The issue with many here, is they don't read all the posts before replying.
Read my original post. I specifically said RECESS the fog lamp into the grille.
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I see, I guess I fell into my stated category of folks, it was in your original post from 4 years ago.
So I missed one link...
No worries my friend.
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It won`t be a cyclops people.
I left off after bending a 5 1/2" ring to weld into the grille shell and form a structural support for the grille.
DSC00019 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 5:53 PM
Had to dust a bit of heat on it and beat it into submission.
DSC00020 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 5:53 PM
When I did a trial fit of the fog lamp bezel to the fabricated ring, I wasn't happy with the gap. Way larger than I envisioned in my mind.
DSC00022 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM
I cut it apart (I find myself doing this a lot) and reforming the strap around a 5" hole saw.
DSC00023 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM
That made a happy fit.
DSC00024 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM
Back to the grille. The cut bars need to be cleaned up for the welding process.
DSC00025 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM
Eventually, I got all the grille bars cleaned up. Not going to trim them yet. I want the ring mounted properly first.
DSC00026 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM
A bit of trimming the center grille verticle bar, and I had the ring sliding in very nice.
DSC00027 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM
Note that the grille bars are pushed in behind the ring. This will get corrected later on when I trim each individual bar and fit them to the ring. For right now, I want to set the grill back on the car to get a feel for what I've done.
DSC00029 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 5:47 PM
Pretty much looks how I envisioned it. I set the fog lamp in place to get a better feel.
DSC00028 by Stu D Baker posted Sep 7, 2020 at 5:50 PM
The grille isn't fastened to the car. Just hanging in place. The fog lamp isn't mounted, but simply setting in the hole. The grill bars have not been trimmed and fit yet. I'm happy with the result to this point, and feel confident the finished look will meet my expectations. If you don't like fog lights, or if you don't care for 1 fog light, no problem. Don't try this on your car. I think this will give the single fog lamp on my 37 a more tailored appearance. More to come as I continue when I have time. Thanks.
looking good. If you do it well, which it looks like you are, it can pass as factory.
Outside the box and I like it. Wondering if the light beam will get broken by the top of the bumper. The 37 bumper can be flipped if need be and as a bonus it makes your car appear lower.
May forever be known as the Bill B***** fog light modification upon completion.
That's a good point. I went out to the shop and looked at the bumper height tonight. Looks as though it will be fine. The light is about 3/4" above the top line of the bumper. The bumpers are pulled in to the body with hand fabricated brackets. The center of the front bumper is pretty close to the center of the grille. I'm anxious to see the horizontal bars in place and center chrome installed.
I'm feeling the old Life cereal commercial coming on...yes, my name is Mike.
Looks REALLY good, my friend.
Was just joking! Looks like you do nice work
Looks good !!
Can’t wait to see the finished product
Thankyou, I'm anxious to see the results too.
Dig it man, doing things out of the box. Ive always kinda had a hankering for a fog light on the front, they dont seem very useful, but I just kinda like the look. I like where yours is going.
You're pretty committed to the diameter at this point, but I wanted to mention that I have a pair of "Cat's Eye" branded fog lights that have a glass lens that is Vee'd in the front instead of flat or semi-round, a lens like that in your fog light would probably mimic the shape of the grille well. Not sure if they made different diameters of that lens though, mine are a fair bit bigger than your single. (Not that I want to sell them either, just a thought).
That's interesting. You're correct, I'm a bit committed at this point. But still a great idea. Christmas is just around the corner, if you would like to gift them to me.
I think it's pretty cool!
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