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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by miller91, May 19, 2009.

  1. Harry Bergeron
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    For anyone who really wants a Maserati V8, they may not be awfully hard to come by -- from a fugly sedan called the Quattroporte, built in the 1960s and 70s.
    Those aren't worth restoring or even fixing, and might be had cheap.

    If you prefer a V6, there's the 1980s Maserati Biturbo and 228, which can be found dead due to rust, carb, interior and electrical problems.
     
  2. Not positive ... but it looks like a late '40s Bandini 1100 Siluro (torpedo) Mille Miglia car.
     
  3. Rootie Kazoootie
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    The grill has a 40s-early 50s Maserati look to it.
     

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  4. miller91
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    At first I thought Maserati A6GS...but then I saw HEMI32's post, the grills are divided...he may be right.
     
  5. miller91
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    It's not the Ermini 1100...

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  6. miller91
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    Or the Siata 750...

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  7. miller91
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    '54 Siluro 750

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    '54 Bandini with a CADDY stuffed in it!???

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    A Bandini with an Offy nicely grafted in...
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    Hmmm...don't know!
     
  8. power58
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    Very Very nice Thread !!! Enjoyed every one. I thought the Square Lancia was an interesting engine also. One posibility that the superchargers were oil driven is that the rapid accelration and deceleration of a solid drive shaft from the blower would cause the shaft to fail. The oil cushioned the drive.
     
  9. Weasel
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    Neither an OHC nor a four, but an Italian jewel of an engine from 1964/65 which I used to own - one of three prototypes ever built. No combustion chambers in heads - they are in the crown of the piston - so called Heron heads. The crank is an equal plane/equal throw which allows the engine to be run as a two four six or eight. External oil pump, wet sump with Tecalemit Jackson slide injection. All aluminum 305 ci and dynoed at 505 hp. I still have the last build sheet somewhere. This was fitted to the De Tomaso Sport 5000 Can Am car designed by Pete Brock.

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  10. Yep ... At first glance, I thought Maserati too! ... Anyway, my hunch was correct ... I just found this AUTOWEEK article (Google is my friend):

    AUTOWEEK (December 8, 2008) page 29.jpg
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  11. Splinter
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    Miller, fuck those Masi lumps! Straight up Alfa, Baby! (Now if I only had an underhood shot of the GTA Autodelta car at work, Or a good shot of the 6 or 7 "Rio" motors....damn. I gotta take more pictures on Monday and post them.)
    Maybe we'll make room for a few Fiat Abarths, too.

    So there.
     

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  12. bonez
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    Of course you were right, its a long time i dont check for this thread, shame on me, but you were right on the 1st try. Im no expert in exotic cars, sometime i surf on the etceterinis site, infact thats were i got this from under the Bandinis gallery....Some real impressive stuff there.If only they were easier to come by...and on the cheaper side.
     
  13. 4tl8ford
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    Oil like water doesn't compress so you have a steady state, using a constant pressure veriable speed pump you get instant pressure - no lag, you also don't have as much heat to contend with.
     
  14. 4tl8ford
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  15. sdgsavage
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    Great thread. To think that these motors and cars were being built in country ravaged by WWII.
     
  16. ...and without computers. Does anyone still know how to use a slide rule?
     
  17. Nads
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    Incredible stuff, thank you all for posting.
     
  18. sdluck
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    Thats about as badass as the come.
     
  19. More photos!!!!

    Where is this slice of HEAVEN?
     
  20. prontopower
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    I think I read once the layout came from the french in about 1906... Some rebel designers from Peugeot. Seems the Italians perfected it though.
     
  21. kustombuilder
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    just stumbled on this thread and have been engrossed for an hour! BEAUTIFUL stuff!!
     
  22. Flatheadguy
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    Yup. the Lotus Cortina. Same engine as the Lotus Elan. A rocket!!
     
  23. Splinter
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    That's a twinspark GTA head alright, never seen a blower version of that motor. The airbox on that looks an awful lot like the SPICA-injected motor airboxes. If those two black things are the blowers, they're either water driven or have some kind of thermostatic element-they tie in to the water transfer pipe.
     
  24. Richard/SIA
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    Bought a slightly warmed up 2000 and five speed to replace the Mazda rotary the former owner had shoe-horned in.
    That was a truly terrible conversion.

    Original engine was a Ford Cortina 1600.

    The Alfa weighs less than the Cortina, makes about twice the power, and sings higher with an extra 2000 RPM!

    I am also using a LSD Alfa axle, which will give give me disc brakes in the rear.

    My Marcos is the English car that really DOES have a wooden frame.

    What my car will look like when restored, except that mine will have Minilight alloy wheels.
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  25. Since we've slid off the 4cyl topic, how about an ATS V8?
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    Only 12 were built. At least one of the cars had a baby tunnel ram intake. I have a better engine photo somewhere that I took at Pebble Beach.
     
  26. Mr48chev
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    Great thread, A few years ago I picked up a Lancia Beta with plans to use the engine in a Indy style roadster but ended up selling it to someone for a parts car for his Beta before I figured out how to hook the engine to a rear drive trans.
     
  27. need louvers ?
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    Hey guys - I don't mean to highjack a thread, but I have a Weber manifold that i have been trying to I.D. for awhile. I suspect it's for a Fiat or Alfa but don't know which one. Does the manufacturer H K S and part number 9122 ring any bells for any one out there? It's for twin DCOE webers, and has a thermostat housing cast integral to what would be the front of the pass side of the manifold. There is also the marking T K W cast into the top as well. I know this is an old thread, but reading through there seems to be quite a bit of Italian knowledge in our midst, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Chip Quinn
     
  28. Hotrod7
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    man, that control arm in the first picture is awesome
     
  29. Michbandini
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    Simply placing an order to Bandini Automobili in Italy :) info@bandiniautomobili.it
     

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