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Art & Inspiration Is this real? (Von Dutch)

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sparky232, Apr 1, 2023.

  1. sparky232
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    Came with my buddies buick. I’m not savvy enough to authenticate or even guess, but it’s pretty cool regardless. What do you guys think DE4EE9D6-D7C3-40A3-8EA1-E4FA0DD004B2.jpeg 0E902D8A-C4AB-421E-803C-B731DFE210DA.jpeg FCAF3724-8102-4CA9-A327-14AA1A61FDFC.jpeg 57C9D781-87E1-444B-8CF9-42DA32DE98DF.jpeg
     
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  2. Good day to ask if it's real, "it's not a lie if you believe it."
     
  3. JD Miller
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    Looks real, but get a radiocarbon dated test, and a lead based paint test

    I used to see him hanging out at Betz Speed and Color
    :rolleyes:
     
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  4. sparky232
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    Ha oh damn that took me a minute. I’m hungover, didn’t even realize what day it is. No April fool, promise!
     
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  5. dreracecar
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    Personally, His work had a certain semitry and balance, this looks like the guy was whipping a mule with a paint brush
     
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  6. sparky232
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    Exactly what I was thinking, it’s all over the damn place
     
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  7. Looks to be in great shape for damn near 66 yrs old, I doubt it
     
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  8. JD Miller
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    And that's exactly how Howard's stuff looked
     
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  9. catdad49
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    I give you this in an answer to "it's all over the place"! Dutched.jpg
     
  10. Depending how many deep he was........................
     
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  12. 19Eddy30
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    ^^^ yep !!
    (Drinks)
     
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  13. sparky232
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    Well shit, shows what I know! Thanks man
    I guess I just assumed otherwise because I always see people going for perfect symmetry in more modern stuff. Like the Japanese saying, wabi sabi. Perfection in imperfection
     
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  14. JD Miller
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    He drank Miester Brau :p............. $1.39 a 6 pack
     
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  15. dreracecar
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    As a single panel, yes, (quote-- "you can only see one side at a time anyway") but a split single panel with left and rights? As the saying goes--- Often copied-never duplicated
    Not saying it is or isnt, need more proof to say it is
     
  16. Petejoe
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    @Germ may have a opinion.
     
  17. My vote is in for "it's legit". Just a feeling ...
     
  18. Pinstripe has the human factor involved. If you want perfection, better get some computer cut stripes.
     
  19. Tow Truck Tom
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    It was reported that he spit on symetry.
    If a customer beefed about ill matched sides, he had no sympathy.
     
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  20. We called that Monster Brew
     
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  21. stanlow69
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    The signature looks shiny compared to the rest. Did he sign a date under his name ? @Moriarity
     
  22. 427 sleeper
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    I don't know jack shit about it . but... I think it's genuine Von Dutch...
    I'm a bit of an optimist sometimes... :D
     
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  23. The 'signature' looks like it's over already shitty, flaky, multi layer paint. If it was real, the paint would not have been like that decades ago when it was supposedly done.
     
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  24. Moriarity
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    Doesn’t look legit to me, I am not an expert though. I haven’t seen anything else he signed that had the day month and year... BCC38D21-D0D0-4095-8918-6FA4CFED3D95.jpeg 76A40CFF-B08B-434E-9CDF-49C4D2EBCBA6.jpeg FAFF4EA6-FFB9-4599-BD00-107D8C759285.jpeg 44747882-3A76-4B7A-91CF-4764908783E3.jpeg D841B667-4A55-4E69-96D6-579D3A5F2789.jpeg
     
  25. JD Miller
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    The valuable thing I learned from ken howard was use gasoline to clean brushes and paint instead of wasting expensive reducer etc :)
     
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  26. harpo1313
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    Lets see the car it was attached to.
     
  27. Tim
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    it looks like it’s a package tray all
    That sun would beat up the base paint over
    The years and leave the one shot about how it looks. I’ve seen cars completely
    Covered in surface rust with no remaining original paint and the pinstriping was still there and colored. It’s pretty tough
     
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  28. I'm looking at the sig up close on a full size computer screen.
     
  29. SS327
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    The signature looks off in the V and ch. But what do I know?
     
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  30. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    I don't recall ever seeing any pinstriper date his signature (on a car) with the day/month/year.
    Any other instances of Von Dutch dating his sig. in this way?
    FWIW, the signature looks brighter/newer that the striping. A lot of striper's have emulated Duth's style over the years and this may be inspired work from a decades old piece with the Dutch sig added by someone?
     

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