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Is this a 9 inch?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by maddog, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. maddog
    Joined: Sep 3, 2006
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    I am thinking this is a Ford 9 inch but the welded seam all the way to the backing plate is not something I have seen before.
    I am looking at this on Craigslist and I do not have better pictures yet.
    I'm sure it is not the rearend that came in this frame.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks
     

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  2. pasadenahotrod
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    Identification on an 8 or 9 inch Ford is usually done by showing the front pumpkin which has a separate pinion bearing flange which is shielded which makes the bottom two bolts on the 9" removeable only by open end wrenches.
     
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  3. enjenjo
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    It's not an 8 or 9 inch.
     
  4. maddog
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    Well there you go. You said that like you would know. I could tell easy if I could see the front, but I cant.

    Why are you so sure, what gave it away for you?
     

  5. If the rear of the housing is completly round and smooth it just may be a 8 3/4 chy. Can't see enought to tell !
     
  6. alumslot
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    On a 8" you can take all the nuts off to pull the pig out with a socket on a 9" you CAN'T.

    Jim
     
  7. This isn't a joke but there is also a 9 3/8 (or something close) out there. I had one once, came out of a Lincoln if I remember right. The housing and axles are the same as a 9" but the center section is different. Good luck finding gears for 9 3/8". I can't remember how to tell the difference though....google might help. Hmmmm, I'm thinking the 9 3/8 had a horizontal strengthening rib on the carrier that curved down at the left end of the rib. More is coming back to me...there was the "mustang" housing and then there was a beefier housing that came in larger cars. The 9 3/8 would not physically fit inside the "mustang" housing, that;s how i came to find out about them.

    Check the bolt pattern, could this be a fifties Chev rear?
     
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  8. gimpyshotrods
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    The 9-3/8" rear only differs very slightly from the 9" rear. There is a small curved cutout in the flange where the center section mounts, in both places where the ring gear passes by it, for clearance.

    You can put a 9-3/8" center section in a 9" housing if you grind it for clearance.

    You can put a 9" center section in a 9-3/8" housing with no trouble at all.

    As far as I know, and have seen, all of the 9-3/8" rears are 31-spline.

    They are otherwise indistinguishable from the 9", except for the wheel bolt pattern, which would be the "big-car" or truck pattern, not 5 on 4-1/2".

    That one looks like a Chrysler to me, from those angles.
     
  9. YYYYYYYY, No, Mopar.
     
  10. jerry
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    Mid 50's Olds/Pontiac.

    The housing construction and the hint of a rib at the left front . The flat style u-joint flange.



    jerry
     
  11. superbyrd
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    looks like 50's GM. also looks to be wearing aluminum drums.
     
  12. HOT40ROD
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    The house does not look like a factory 9 or 8 inch ford. But there are some co. building housing. I would have to see the front to make sure.
     
  13. DualQuad55
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    57-64 olds/pontiac.
     
  14. enjenjo
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    Rear of the housing is round, Ford is oval.
     
  15. Von Rigg Fink
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    kinda looks Mopar-ish 8.75

    having a better look at the front will help..but as enjenjo says..not a ford 8 or 9
     

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  16. Von Rigg Fink
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    see the difference in the ford 8" here?
    [​IMG]

    before i filled the dimples

    [​IMG]
     
  17. draggin breath
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    a lincoln 9 3/8 housing will take a 9 inch chunk,but all I've dealt with a 28 splines and the Hollander agrees.
     
  18. Francisco Plumbero
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    Im with the guy voting early GM, looks like an Olds pumpkin, Your'e gaming or you would have shown us the diff.
     
  19. maddog
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    No game.
    I have emailed the seller but no response.
    I think for the most part most agree its not a 9 inch.:)
     
  20. Brad54
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    It's not a Mopar 8.75 either--Mopar housings don't have a welded seam running lengthwise on the tubes.

    -Brad
     
  21. 56oldsDarrin
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    I am thinking pont/olds.
     
  22. Olds. The housing ends are a full circle. Mopar ends are flat on top.
    This Olds end from MW website:
    [​IMG]
     
  23. Kenneth S
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    It's an old chevroldsmobuicktiac product, I'd pass on it.
     
  24. Mike51Merc
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    I asked my wife the same question and she laughed at me.
     
  25. my olds housing has the same welded lines as this....
     
  26. FEDER
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    All the 9 3/8 ford chunks out of full size mid 60s Ford and stationwagons I have removed were 31 spline and 5 on 4 1/2 boltpattern. The Lincolns of that era may be
    5 on 5. Fed
     
  27. Yeah, '61-'69 Lincolns are 5 on 5", In case anyone cares. I've never saw a 9 3/8" in any thing other than a Lincoln however, interesting.
     
  28. gimpyshotrods
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    Circa 1965, the Continental had a Dana 53 rear, the forerunner of the Dana 60. It is indeed 5 on 5"
     
  29. Bearing Burner
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    As far as I know the 9 3/8 only came in a 2.78 ratio. i was told they came in Ford Police Cars
     
  30. johnnie
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    There are more for 9 3/8. Lowest ratio I have had was 3.50. They came in several mid '60s Galaxies, and similar cars.
     

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