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History Is the Joe Gemsa T roadster still around?

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  1. alchemy
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    I was digging in my old magazines today and came across the September '67 Rod and Custom with the pale yellow '25 T roadster on the cover. The car with the OHC B motor and red Buffalo wires. A vintage style build (even in 1967) by Joe Gemsa, called the "King of the 4-Bangers".

    Did the car survive to today? I hope it didn't get scavanged for parts.
     
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  2. Pete Eastwood
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    That was a neat car, I knew Joe, & remember seeing him drive it a number of times.
    I hope it has survived.
     
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  3. 25mercury
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    It's in Northern California. Current owner is a member of FAST and is restoring it.
     
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  4. alchemy
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    Here's a pic for those who might not know it.


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  5. It's amazing that I remembered the car after you posted the photo of the magazine cover.

    The grill shell is really what stuck in my mind,,I'm glad to hear it is being restored. HRP
     
  6. Kevin Lee
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    I have another magazine with that car featured. (stashed away somewhere) I dig that car – the grille shell is from an International.

    Believe I asked a similar question concerning it's whereabouts here a few years ago but can't remember what the outcome was.

    Edit: Completely skipped 25mercury's post. Sorry.
     
  7. hiboy32
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    That is a cool roadster. Didn't he design and build the ohv head?
     
  8. bgaro
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    what are head lights? packard?
     
  9. So-Cal Speed Sacramento
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    yes it is! it's hiding here in Nor*Cal ...
     
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  10. alchemy
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    The article says the headlights are '17 Studebaker. The grille is a '34 International.

    25merc and SoCalSac need to get us some current spy photos.

    There's another '20ish T roadster from the same era with a similar weirdo-vintage vibe I remember. It was built with tall wires and low-slung body, and a very small 4-banger of later years. The owner/builder was a tall guy and seemed to barely fit into the car. Featured in an off-brand mag of the time, pictured doing dusty slides, I have a copy somewhere and will try to find it soon. I'll post pics and info when I can.
     
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  11. Bruce Lancaster
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    I think PHR was the other magazine that covered the Gemsa car.
     
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  12. Kevin Lee
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    Ah, I think you're right. I still have stacks of things to go through since the move – wish I could find that magazine and scan/post it.
     
  13. Jay Tyrrell
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    It would be cool to see more of it!
    Jay
     
  14. 4-port Riley
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    The head on that car was a "Gemsa", first designed and built by the Morales Brothers of sprint car fame.
     
  15. Ocean56
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    That is one of the baddest Ts I've ever laid eyes on!
     
  16. falcongeorge
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    Those look like exhaust pipe retainer rings from a Triumph. Did he counterbore and tap the exhaust ports?
     
  17. falcongeorge
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    Seth Hammond??
     

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  18. The37Kid
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    Seth still has his T and it has a DO Fronty. Glad to hear the Joe Gemsa T is being restored, it was in Massachusetts for many years in a collection. Bob
     
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  19. falcongeorge
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    I think that might be his "hillclimb" car??

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  20. I have the issue of PHR from '64 with the Joe Gemsa T. I will scan the article tonight.
     
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  22. falcongeorge
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    Thanks so much for posting that Jimmy, an amazing car, especially in the context of 1964! Was it ten years ahead of the curve or 30 years behind?;)
     
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  23. alchemy
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    Wow, I never saw the posts about the Hammond T or the Gemsa PHR feature. Thanks guys! I really dig that Hammond car. Any current pics of it?
     
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  25. alchemy
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    OK, I scrolled through the first couple dozen pages and found the scans of the old Street Rod magazine, and the alluding to the current whereabouts of the Hammond T, but didn't see any actual current pics. Is search friendly enough to find "current" pics of the Hammond or Gemsa Ts?
     
  26. I just picked this up from a local man. I'm going to keep his name diclosed for the time being I was told that this car was in Hot Rod Magazine in 1956 and later found it what to me seems to be the Joe Gemsa T. This car has been weathered and stored for many years I am in Southern California and the guy I got it from is very well known and so is his father I do believe that this car is the real deal but I can't be completely sure without more forensic investigation I will let you decide
     

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  27. This is the real deal
     

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  28. Some patina you just can't fake
     

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  29. The37Kid
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    What happened to Joe's T after it left Massachusetts? Was it parted out and the engine and wire wheels used on other cars? Good luck with the rebuild, it was a nice T back in the day. Bob
     
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  30. alchemy
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    Did you get anything else in the pile?
     
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