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Technical Is anyone still using 4 speed transmissions?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by HOTRODPRIMER, Apr 13, 2017.

    Joined: Sep 5, 2007
    Posts: 1,630


    To me, it's the difference between driving your ride and just steering it around. All my rides have manuals. I've had my OT '17 Caddy ATS-V coupe daily driver for three months now and I've finally got the six-speed Tremec synced with my muscle memory and shifting it is second nature now.
  2. Well said.
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  3. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
    Posts: 13,194

    from oregon

    Roger that, hell even the Suburban Chevrolet trunk monkey can drive an automatic!
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  5. junkyardjeff
    Joined: Jul 23, 2005
    Posts: 7,337


    I have two 4 speeds but not sure what I want to put them in,was thinking about putting one in the sunliner when it gets a Y block again but since its just a cruiser I think I will pass and then I have the custom 500 but its a 4 door.
  6. 2OLD2FAST
    Joined: Feb 3, 2010
    Posts: 2,156

    from illinois

    I figured I'd add this , this site alledgedly preaches the virtues of pre 1966 hotrods self respecting hot rodder in that time period would have had an automatic/slushbox/powerslide etc. in thier hotrod ...
  7. I changed from 4 speed to Automatic when I Sold my
    Speed Shop back in the Day
    I raced a 4 speed ( M22 ) stone crusher
    All the Cars that I set up to do Drag Racing were 4 speeds
    a couple of Automatic behind Mopars
    but thats how it was back in the Day 60's to mid 70's
    Just my 3.5 cents

    Live Learn & Die a Fool
  8. Richmond T-10 in my roadster.
  9. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
    Posts: 13,194

    from oregon

    Me too!
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  10. 4 on the floor in my 41 Chevy!

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  11. 66miles99
    Joined: Sep 14, 2010
    Posts: 295

    from Canada


    Had to work to jam the pedals in but a Saginaw 4 makes er go.....theoretically still haven't put it to the road quite yet.

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  12. steinauge
    Joined: Feb 28, 2014
    Posts: 1,507

    from 1960

    Here is the T-10 ready to go into my ford behind the FE. 100_0033.JPG
  13. chevy57dude
    Joined: Dec 10, 2007
    Posts: 5,398


    4 speeds rule. That's an established fact.
    Spent the weekend converting the OT El to factory correct 4 speed. Now it feels like a different car altogether. Total connection between driver and vehicle. Took my kid for a ride and the grin on his face said it all.
  14. That was all I wanted when I first started driving. I haven't given it up yet.

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  15. 61stude
    Joined: Mar 15, 2007
    Posts: 27


    A Saginaw 4speed currently backs the hopped up 250 il6 in my ‘36 Chevy.
  16. mickeyc
    Joined: Jul 8, 2008
    Posts: 1,009


    I have a Muncie 4 speed that I pulled out of an early Chevelle wagon in the mid seventies. I only wanted the trans and turned down the factory original wagon 350, 12 bolt for $150.00. I paid 65 $ for the trans. I really made an error letting that wagon get away. Any way I do plan to use it in my 40 project.
  17. JimSibley
    Joined: Jan 21, 2004
    Posts: 3,190


    4 speeds rule. I have one in my 32 5w, my 32 3w, my 54 v8 healey, and 3 speed with overdrive in my 60 chevy truck and my 27 ford roadster.
  18. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
    Posts: 18,402

    from Michigan

    2 o/t ponies both with manual transmissions..... I wouldn't want it any other way.... :)
  19. bowie
    Joined: Jul 27, 2011
    Posts: 2,223


    A number of posts back, turboroadster asked about the reverse loc out on 56150’s Hurst. To me it looks like the optional one from Hurst for use on any of their Comp plus 4 spd units , like these : . Also , 4spdwagon : I think the unit you were referring to with the built in reverse lock out was a Hurst Super Shifter unit.
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2017
  20. bangngears
    Joined: Aug 30, 2007
    Posts: 876

    from ofallon mo

    Of coarse we are still using 4 speeds, its the HAMB
  21. sliceddeuce
    Joined: Aug 15, 2017
    Posts: 2,982


    `34 3 window w/ new process A-833 and a quick change.
  22. Gonna go bang me some Super T-10 a little later today.

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  23. Fedcospeed
    Joined: Aug 17, 2008
    Posts: 2,011


    4 Speed Hydramatic in my 47 Olds
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  24. It's hard to ignore the late OD manual transmissions as you can have your cake and eat it too with the ability to run low rear gears (with a T56, you can run 4.56 or even 4.89 gearing and still have a sub-3.0 'cruising' gear in 6th gear). Add in the fact that most have a torque rating as high or higher than the 'vintage' 4-speeds, and going 'trad' gets even harder (these are hot rods, and do get beat on, right?). And a thorough overhaul (more than just gaskets, bearings and blocker rings) on a trad 4-speed can easily be a substantial portion of the cost of a new trans.

    With that said, the late trans never look quite 'right' in a vintage install. In the pre-war cars, the lever is centered on the floor properly, but ends up too far back. Post-war cars, it's more-or-less back where it should be, but still centered, not offset to the left like it should be. And Jeep tower conversions on Ford toploaders look right in the pre-war cars, but that tower shifter isn't exactly conducive to speed-shifting, which to me negates one of the prime reasons for having a 4-speed.
  25. I hope more folks swap to 5 speeds so toploaders will get dirt cheap :)
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  26. car doctor
    Joined: May 25, 2011
    Posts: 475

    car doctor

    Using a Muncie in my gasser. Still love banging the gears. If you don't have a clutch, you don"t have much!! 14894512888012045431384.jpg
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2017
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  27. coupemerc
    Joined: Jul 16, 2007
    Posts: 406


    I'm still rowing a 4 speed in the coupe. An M21 behind a 283 with a Halibrand out back. Schroeder steering, drum brakes and no radio.
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  28. Mike Moreau
    Joined: Sep 16, 2011
    Posts: 289

    Mike Moreau

    Running a Saginaw 4 speed with the 3:50 first gear. 3:55 gear in the rear end, 30 inch tires in my nailhead powered 29 coupster. Love it.
  29. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
    Posts: 18,402

    from Michigan

    Love blasting down 8 mile Rd. at lunch time... :D:rolleyes::D
    I also got 3:55 gears out back..:D

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