Janet, The HAMB (it's what you really have a problem with, isn't it? not the JJ) isn't a magazine, it's a world wide garage night. And the guys inside are standing around, drinking a beer, eating a burger, and talking to each other about car stuff. And when car magazines come up as a topic of conversation, car guys are generally dissatisfied with the product you have to offer. It isn't a WWW vs. Print argument. There is room for both. It's simply that car guys want more from you. None of this has anything to do with Ryan except that he hosts the garage night. We don't run our opinions by him. He isn't our dad. You can't hold him responsible for our opinions any more than YOU can take credit for what GRAY BASKERVILLE wrote 30 years ago. If you want people to speak well of magazines, then make a better product. Don't blame someone else for having a great idea and executing it well. That's like Ford blaming sliding Taurus sales on the Camry being too good. Don't blame the ref for you losing the ball when it was stripped because you started your touchdown dance on the 10 yard line. hold onto the ball (print) and run with it.