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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 64T-bolt, May 17, 2015.

  1. 64T-bolt
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    Crawling a yard today and found this.. I'm intrigued.. ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1431882393.261845.jpg
     
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  2. Damn good boat anchor !!!!!
     
  3. squirrel
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    Looks like a Caddy V8 from the old days...
     
  4. harpo1313
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    Coffee table base.
     
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  5. Master of None
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    Yup, its a Caddy motor, I think some WW2 era tanks used them too.
     
  6. volvobrynk
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    Your next project!!
     
  7. This is a 46 Caddy V8-
    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Hot Rodded Caddy note same front mount-

    [​IMG]
     
  9. draggin'GTO
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    Bore and Stroke: 3-1/2 x 4-1/2

    Piston displacement, Cubic Inches: 346.0

    Compression ratio: 7.25

    Maximum Brake Horsepower: 150 @ 3400 RPM

    Maximum Torque Lbs.Ft. @ RPM: 260 @ 1700 RPM
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    Cad flathead V8 - the 'other' flathead.

    Great hot rod material, but a bit on the heavy side at around 800-900 pounds if I'm not mistaken.

    Replaced in 1949 by the famous 331 OHV V8, 160 HP and nearly 200 pounds lighter.
     
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  10. 56sedandelivery
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    Interesting "galvanized water pipe" used for a crossover, and welded in place. I thought flathead Caddy V-8 also, not that I've ever seen one to compare it to. Did anyone with the yard know what it was? I am Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
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  11. seb fontana
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    I don't think caddy but for some reason I'm thinking Cord..
     
  12. draggin'GTO
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    After comparing the Caddy flathead pics posted and the boneyard lump I'd have to agree that it's definitely not a Cad engine sitting there in rusty silence....
     
  13. 64T-bolt
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    I think it may be from a Brit car, Oakland, which is something like a lasalle?
     
  15. Dick Stevens
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    I have to agree, still want to know what it is, though.
    ^
     
  16. RichFox
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    it would be nice to have another picture from the side. The Lycoming flathead V8 used in the Cord had heads at more of a vertical position. In between a Ford flathead and a flathead six on inline eight.
     
  17. Binger
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    Oakland was a GM product. For runner to the Pontiac I Believe. LaSalle was GM also. I don't believe that motor is from either.
     
  18. 64T-bolt
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    The only pic I could find of the exact motor with concave heads was in a 31 Oakland.

    I scored both complete motors for 100 bucks.. ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1431897456.908019.jpg
    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1431897469.408647.jpg
     
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  19. 64T-bolt
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    I think this is it too.. 32 Pontiac. ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1431898111.601512.jpg
     
  20. The37Kid
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    Nice save! You are going to be suprised when you see the valve layout. They ran one of these in the INDY 500 in 1931 or 1932. I sold one to a guy who was building a replica. Bob
     
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  21. squirrel
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    neat! I didn't know Pontiac had a V8 back then
     
  22. Dick Stevens
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  23. Would love to know the specs on the crankshaft- looking for something beefier for my '28 chevy 4 :D
     
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  24. Dick: Oakland became Pontiac around then didn't it? Tim
     
  25. Dick Stevens
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    They did drop Oakland and continued with Pontiac because Pontiac was outselling Oakland.
     
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  26. The37Kid
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    Funny how a Google search turns up an old photo of an Oakland V8 that was on an old HAMB post years ago. Bob [​IMG]
     
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  27. I'd need to see the heads, but I think those are 'slot' valves.
    Sometimes referred to as 'semi-overhead'.
    I love old tech...

    Cosmo
     
  28. Master of None
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    Learn something new everyday.... Cool looking motors now where does one find a spare transmission to hook to it? Or......fab a adapter?
     
  29. Binger
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    I love the hamb. Learn something new every time I log on.


    Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
     
  30. GM bought Oakland in 30 or 31 and merged it with Pontiac. Pontiac used an Oakland flathead V8 [with a few minor changes] in some of their 32 cars...in 33 Pontiac came out with their own flathead straight 8 engine.
    There was a primo 32 Pontiac V/8 sedan for sale locally and I could have scored it for 9 grand....passed to buy something else. Had a nice V/8 rumble to it as a totally stock 32 Pontiac...
     

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