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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 34Larry, Jul 27, 2020.

  1. 34Larry
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    I empathize strongly "may have" found and eliminated the miss in my 331 that I decided to chase down and get rid of, way last April. I've posted at least twice before that
    I had found it and got rid of it, only to have to eat my words and slink away into the darkness. I have yet to put it under load on the road and will after tidying up a few loose ends. It starts better, runs quieter, and sounds better and it ran good at 5500 in the drive, all this without the miss, (now I just jinxed myself), but as 31Vivky as reminded me, the proof of the pudding is on the road and under load. I finally smartened up and won't say what I discovered, and how I went about fixing the problem. I'm tired of way Crow tastes.
    This shot give a clue as to what I believe it was if you want to take a guess. may 13-20 3.jpg
     
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  2. 2OLD2FAST
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    All the coil wires bundled together ?
     
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  3. alchemy
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    It was the wire wheels and IFS, right? You got rid of those? ;)
     
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  4. das858
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    I know , its the GM alternator !
     
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  5. winduptoy
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    To much shine to see the spark jumping from the coil high tension wire to one of the primary terminal posts? I always run one with a miss in the dark of the night to watch the light show

    Sent from my XT1585 using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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  6. lostone
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    The coil wires bundled together creating a magnetic field that was screwing with ya !
     
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  7. brigrat
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    Is it HAMB legal to ask for advice (in previous threads) and not disclose the final results?
     
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  8. Gotta go with the coil wire bundled up with the others.
     
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  9. 34Larry
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    Not the wires.
     
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  10. gene-koning
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    I don't like guessing games..... Is this a "before" or "after" picture?

    Did you move the coil?
     
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  11. hoop
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    Ballast resistor arcing to rear of air cleaner base
     
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  12. hoop
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    Ballast resistor arcing to rear of air cleaner base
     
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  13. brigrat
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    You just added the ballast resistor or you didn't need the ballast resistor..................
     
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  14. lippy
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    Windshield tint was too dark?
     
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  15. ccain
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    Top radiator hose is off.

    D'you have to pull the intake?

    Was the intake gasket bad, sucking air? Or maybe a head gasket leak?
     
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  16. inthweedz
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    Radiator hose leak at operating temp, squirting coolant on to the coil???
     
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  17. Stogy
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    34Larry.jpg

    :rolleyes:...A few Wild N' Crazy Guess's...Void in Coil Wire dust cover on coil end (see Arrow) exposing possible arcing issues,

    Second guess...

    I'm assuming a Vacuum hose is being used on aft Carb at fwd right side but capped off on front carb creating possible unbalance or...

    Thirdly...

    Possibly a coil wire internal breakage by side pull tension at coil due to existing shear condition induced by an overyanked wire...in the loomage for those with dirty minds...

    Lastly...

    and I think Coil Angle had possible ram...Get That...Ram-ifications time for Viagracoil...

    Coil acting up due to inner coil oil coverage...it was discussed recently in another Thread...

    May there be Burpless days ahead...nothing worse than a Sputtering Hotrod...:D


     
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  18. spanners
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    Flux capacitor installed incorrectly?
     
  19. 392
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    Like others have said. I’ve never seen a coil wire bundled together with other wires. Mount coil to rear area closer to distributor and don’t wire tie it to anything.
     
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  20. 34Larry
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    Answer is yes and replaced it and a "before".
     
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  21. 34Larry
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    Always had the resistor but replaced it with MSD 8 ohm resistor.
     
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  22. 34Larry
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    I did pull the intake but not because of the miss and there was no vacuum leak or head gasket.
     
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  23. 34Larry
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    Nope, but 100 point awarded for originality !
     
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  24. 34Larry
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    Sent ya a PM Stogy.
     
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  25. 34Larry
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    Thanks all for your posts. Today Tuesday the 28th and I still haven't had time to tidy up those loose ends in order to put it on the road. I know this will sound crazy to most of you but it just got to damned hot here in the Seattle area yesterday to spend time under a roof in a shop/garage. I know 94 degrees is pretty common summer temps for a large percentage of you but for us Washington hot weather wimps, coupled with all the humidity in the air here because of all the water around us, for this old man it was way to much. Cooler today, 84, but not enough for me. Oh, and the major portion of folks here do not have AC in their homes including me.

    Okay now back to the problem. All you pointing to the coil is in my opinion, right now at least, is where I have made the change. Originally mounted to the intake caused the coil to go bad because of getting repeatably way to hot ......I think.
    I have now moved a new MSD coil to the firewall and that along with an 8 ohm resistor are living in harmony with the new MSD distributor and wires. All the ideas everyone came up with are new ones to me and maybe anyone of those could also be the culprit, I really have no idea.
    So the loose ends are: cutting all the leads shorter and installing new terminals, cutting the coil wire to length. Draining the water from it and replacing it with antifreeze, changing oil and installing new Wix filter still on the road from Summit, (none of the parts houses here have a 1 qt. spin on for a 55 hemi.) Once that is done, a good road test will tell me if I was right, THIS TIME, or if I need to put on my dunce hat and sit in the corner like any idiot kid......................AGAIN :rolleyes:
     
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  26. I learned this little tip back when I did my first engine rebuild. It is waaaay easier to clean up leaked water all over an engine than it is to clean up anti-freeze.
     
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  27. I had a miss and replaced 3 ignition wire sets before miss went away . The wires checked out Ok but they were the cause .
     
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  28. wheeldog57
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    Good luck 34, that motor (hehe I know. . . Engine) looks too good to run poorly. I hope your fixins today will make for many trouble free miles!!!
     
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  29. Mr48chev
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    As a comparison 94 in Seattle is 115 in Texas temperatures .

    It's always amazing that the smaller the problem the longer it bites you on the butt though.
     
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  30. 34Larry
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    48 is that a true comparison or is this because everything bigger, (more) in Texas?
     
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