Ya, I didn't go shopping for one. I was at Home Depot and walked by the clearance table. There was a Lincoln Weld Pak 180 their for $340 bucks. Searching back inside my brain- I remebered that that might be cheap. I checked list price and sure enough they are $799? It is missing the regulator, which I hope I can buy seperatly? I have no idea which one to get. And I might add I've not welded anything in about 35 years. So I guess i'm gonna get started learning something new. I think I went there in the first place to look for some kitchen cabinet stuff for her and forgot to look at them! The little women is not to excited about the new purchase. What should I do for the regulater? I have no idea. Welding newbie here, only know enough to burn something up. I better start reading.