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Hydraulic Throwout Bearing for early Ford Toploader

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by VA HAMB, Feb 8, 2013.

  1. VA HAMB
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    Im trying to get my new running gear in my car but have hit a raod block!

    Im running an early 283 SBC with an early ford toploader 3 speed and I want to run a hydraulic throwout on it but cant seem to find one anywhere. Does anyone make one for the 1.75 bearing retainer? I could probably rig up a fixture to run a slave on the origional shaft but would rather not do all of that if possible. Any suggestions?
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  2. ibcalaveras
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    Speeway sells one that fits the toploader. Check the spects to see if it will work for u
     
  3. VA HAMB
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    I have looked several times and didnt see anything but Ill look again, and then call, maybe they can help me find something. Thanks!
     
  4. VA HAMB
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    anyone else?
     
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  5. VA HAMB
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    I cant find one from Speedway that will fit or from anywhere else for that matter. I set up a slave cylinder on it using the original arm on the clutch shaft but am having troublr getting the slave to push it. Any ideas????
     
  6. VA HAMB
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    Nothing? Somebody has to be running a hydraulic on a toploader?
     
  7. F&J
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    Can you put up pics of your slave attempt? It can work if the ratios are correct. Like: lever length, slave bore size and master bore size...
     
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  8. oj
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    I think the slave cylinders i have seen 'pull' not push and you use a 5/8 master cylinder. wilwood sells the complete kit.
    when you say 'early ford toploader' do you meany like a '39ish kinda early? i was picturing a 60's era from a mustang.
     
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  9. VA HAMB
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    Yes a 39ish toploader
     
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  11. bobscogin
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    Would be more helpful if the photo was of the parts that disengage the clutch.

    Bob
     
  12. mista
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    i'm interested on doing hydraulic cluth on my toploader also.. any help here?
     
  13. southcross2631
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    1960 Ford pickup I had was a hydraulic clutch from the factory. It worked for years with a 3 speed on the column. That setup or a similar setup should work for you. Used a Mazda pickup slave and master in a dirt track stock that was real slick.
     
  14. gearhead695456
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    Interested if you ever got this worked out. I am in the same spot trying to figure out a hydraulic slave cyl on a early 3 speed. Thanks for any photos or specs.........
     
  15. no55mad
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    There was a recent post concerning hydraulic t.o. bearings and their reliability (bad in my experience). There are pics there of slave cyl applications.
     
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  16. earlymopar
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    In most cases, you're better off to use an external hydraulic slave cylinder to actuate a regular clutch arm and release bearing. -EM
     
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  17. gearhead695456
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    No55mad, I searched posts to see but only found this one whats it under? Thanks

    Sent from my SM-J700T using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  18. 36cab
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    We used a Wilwood external pull slave cylinder to pull one ear on a bell crank that then pushed / turned the equalizer shaft from a second ear. We used the pull slave and an offset bell crank instead of just a push slave as the car is heavily channeled and we did not have room for the push slave to have a straight shot at the equalizer shaft.
     
  19. 36cab
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    I found this photo of an external push slave cylinder on a later Ford top-loader. Something similar to this may work for you.
    slave.jpg
     
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    The above pic was posted in a a thread by bobss396
     

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