Register now to get rid of these ads!

Projects Hillbilly Model T speedster (attempt #2)

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by hillbilly4008, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    I posted those race pics on Facebook, amazingly someone was able to find more info on them.

    "Oneida County Free For All Sweepstakes
    Riverside Park
    Rome NY

    Rome Sentinel of Aug 21, 1926.
    ““The 86th annual Oneida County Fair, given by the Oneida County Agricultural Society, came to a close this afternoon at Riverside Park.
    “The program arranged for this afternoon was six automobile races. This consisted of a light car event, time trials and introduction of drivers, elimination heats for the big race, a deciding heat to pick those qualified to enter the big event, and the final, the Oneida County free-for-all sweepstakes.
    “In addition to the above, Charles LeVee was scheduled to do his leap from a speeding automobile.”
    FB_IMG_1580782879274.jpg FB_IMG_1580782891550.jpg
     
  2. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    Spending $$$. The T tank seemed like a good idea while i was standing out in the snow. Now that i see it on the chassis in the stock location however...
    20200204_164813.jpg
    I got my column
    20200204_164817.jpg

    Then back on these spring mounts...
    20200204_164831.jpg
     
  3. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    Almost there. Just one more step and I'm done! I had to remake my shackle bosses today, some idiot didn't take into account the thickness of the shackle plates.

    Bosses are made from 1 1/4" hot roll round drilled out to 3/4" to accept the 5/8" bronze bushings. The shackle plates are whiddled out of 1/4" x 2" hot roll flat drilled at 1 17/32" so the boss fits in, and drilled for a 9/16" bolt at the lower end.

    Tomorrow i will weld the plates on and have this all finished up. Then onto planning the body...
    20200206_171134.jpg
     
  4. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    SNOW DAY!!!


    We're back on the ground now. Some shocks and the suspension is done!
    20200207_124341.jpg 20200207_125804.jpg 20200207_125745.jpg 20200207_125903.jpg
     
  5. GZ
    Joined: Jan 2, 2007
    Posts: 1,186

    GZ
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from Detroit

    Wheelbase? Check. Height? Check. You're doing great. Those are perfect proportions.
     
  6. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    Ok model T peeps, i got a question. These pieces i circled, do they connect to the side behind the firewall? If so im assuming there is wood there?
    20200212_143813.jpg
    I'm hoping to have plywood down on the frame today. Before i do that i need to fix the front body mounts someone cut off. Luckily, i have them...
    20200212_141234.jpg
    Then onto my least favoritest thing in the planet... wood working...
    20200212_115206.jpg
     
    chryslerfan55 likes this.
  7. GZ
    Joined: Jan 2, 2007
    Posts: 1,186

    GZ
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from Detroit

     
  8. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    I got these for the fire wall but no other metal bits
    20200212_223157.jpg
    I have some other pieces I'm not sure about. I'll get pics tomorrow, maybe you guys can help me figure them out
     
    chryslerfan55 likes this.
  9. Man this looks great! Nice job!
     
    hillbilly4008 likes this.
  10. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    I made a bit of progress on the temporary floor.
    20200213_095549.jpg

    These are the parts im unsure as to what they are...
    20200213_095659.jpg 20200213_095744.jpg 20200213_095709.jpg
    This one im hoping is the wood for the seat back? If so i could use it for a pattern...
    20200213_095628.jpg
     
    chryslerfan55 and Okie Pete like this.
  11. GZ
    Joined: Jan 2, 2007
    Posts: 1,186

    GZ
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from Detroit

    With the stock body removed, those are the only brackets that hold the firewall. There are some bolts which hold it to the top cowl sheet metal on a stock body. On pre-1914 stock Model Ts those the ONLY brackets that hold the firewall. There is a long rod which goes from the top of the firewall into the back of the top radiator tank as well. That just sturdies everything up. Most speedsters that have just a flat firewall just use these bottom frame brackets and the long rod to the radiator. Plenty sturdy enough.

    Those longer thin tin pieces are the engine pans. They go on the left and right of the engine. They cover the gap between the engine and the frame. They attach to the bolts that hold the pan to the block and go to the frame, where they are attached with the long skinny bolts that hood the hood shelves on. The one with the hole punched out is the passenger side. That hole is for the carburetor drain. The one with the big cutout is the driver's side. That weird big cutout allows the steering column to pass through the engine bay.

    That wood piece with that weirdly shaped bracket runs along the top of a touring or roadster body. That weird looking, cast bracket supports the convertible top. The main top bow attaches and pivots to this.

    From the photo, I can not tell what that gray-ish looking part is. Doesn't look familiar from that angle.

    Looking forward to seeing the body design!!!! Keep up the great work!!!
     
  12. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    Thanks GZ! I do have the rod for the radiator, needs some straightening but over all its still a good piece.

    Here's how far i got today. I gotta say I'm pretty pleased with the outcome for not knowing what the heck I'm doing.
    20200213_144229.jpg 20200213_154358.jpg 20200213_170633.jpg 20200213_170702.jpg
     
  13. Kewl65
    Joined: Oct 13, 2008
    Posts: 32

    Kewl65
    Member

    Sure doesnt look like that from where Im sitting.....looks amazing
     
  14. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

  15. 64 DODGE 440
    Joined: Sep 2, 2006
    Posts: 4,354

    64 DODGE 440
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from so cal

    The wood is a lot harder to weld. Bamboo welding rod helps, but it can be hard to strike an arc.
     
  16. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 20,511

    gimpyshotrods
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    You need a spool of wood wire, for the WIG welder.
     
  17. You have to keep the Bamboo wet to successfully to strike a ark, and the spool of wood wire needs to be hollow core with water in yhe core
     
  18. BrandonB
    Joined: Feb 24, 2006
    Posts: 3,293

    BrandonB
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from nor cal

    And don't forget you have to switch to this style welding helmet or you'll hurt your eyes and get slag up your nose.
    Underwater.jpg
     
  19. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    you guys are shot haha

    I can promise you at some point I'm just going to spit my gum on it and hope everything holds...

    I'd much rather have steel slivers than these damn wood slivers...
     
  20. kevinrevin
    Joined: Jul 1, 2018
    Posts: 174

    kevinrevin
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from East Texas

    Iron is good for the blood, but the fiber is good for regularity.
     
  21. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    So it took me longer to mock this seat up than it did to shape out the floor... funny how that works 20200214_180409.jpg
     
  22. plym_46
    Joined: Sep 8, 2005
    Posts: 4,018

    plym_46
    Member
    from central NY

    I saw a thread somewhere the guy was using a couple of contractor wheelbarrows trimmed and welded together to fashion his cowl. Can you still get steel wheelbarrow tubs any more?
     
  23. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    Hey man, long time no talk. Hope all is well. We need to get back on that Tug Hill Speedster Rally idea!

    I've seen people use wheelbarrows for firewalls before. I don't see why you couldn't build a body from them, slit it down the middle and often it up like a V. Instant boat tail.

    I've never seen just the tubs for sale by themselves. Those suckers don't come cheap either...
     
    chryslerfan55 likes this.
  24. plym_46
    Joined: Sep 8, 2005
    Posts: 4,018

    plym_46
    Member
    from central NY

    They are available on line for 100 to 500 b itucks.this fellow used them vertically with what would be the front end up so the rounded flair stood up like fairing.

    If I recall, he made the so they were about three inches wider than the firewall on both sides so the body was wide enough for seating two.
     
    chryslerfan55 likes this.
  25. plym_46
    Joined: Sep 8, 2005
    Posts: 4,018

    plym_46
    Member
    from central NY

  26. guitarguy
    Joined: May 26, 2008
    Posts: 609

    guitarguy
    Member

    The brackets you showed a few days ago go like in the pic below....this is my body I am rewooding---I too suck at woodworking.

    However, building the body that you are, I wouldn't even worry about it, as you see, you can just do the flat wood floor, which lowers the body 3-4 inches from stock.

    By the way, if your not using any of those brackets, I'd be interested.

    Speedster project 42.jpg
     
  27. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    Something like this... did i mention i hate woodworking? 20200220_172421.jpeg

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  28. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    Yay! Parts!

    I practically had to make this guy take my money.
    20200223_140035.jpg
     
    kidcampbell71 and chryslerfan55 like this.
  29. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

    Im in need of whatever goes between the column and steering wheel. 20200223_140023.jpeg

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
    kidcampbell71 and chryslerfan55 like this.
  30. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,919

    hillbilly4008
    Member
    from Rome NY

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.