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HEMI Tech- Intakes and exhaust manifolds

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by scootermcrad, Jul 5, 2006.

  1. Dave's hemi
    Joined: Feb 27, 2017
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    Dave's hemi

    Like gunswanted, I to came across an Edelbrock ds495 intake manifold. Other than mine and his it's still the only manifolds I've seen. I'm not big on the desoto hemis, mostly focus on the Chrysler engines so I thought I'd let you guys know I put it up on eBay for anyone searching for one. (Not as good of shape as gunswanted manifold but will polish up nicely
     

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  2. mrrilla
    Joined: Apr 21, 2006
    Posts: 72

    mrrilla
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from Vail,AZ

    I know this is an old thread but I am looking a 3x2 or 4x2 intake source. I can't afford the high dollar vintage Horne and similar intakes so who is making the tube manifolds and/or u-fab kits? Again only looking for 3x2 or 4x2 for a Chrysler hemi.
     
  3. Gear drive speed has a 6x2 log cast in aluminum. There are kits for steel u fab intakes on ebay for around 125. There was some one building the u fab intakes a few years ago, but I cant recall who.
     
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  4. jack_pine
    Joined: Jan 20, 2007
    Posts: 353

    jack_pine
    Member
    from Motor City

    received_1005388449849792.jpeg received_1991660177610069.jpeg received_10208849921140454.jpeg Hi, Folks... I thought I was in the home stretch on my hemi-powered project, a 1965 Dodge D100 with a 1958 392 Hemi & Tremec 5 speed.

    We got too clever, I guess. We took the drivetrain out and I traded off the Sid's dropped axle & disc brake setup. Then we went ahead and installed a Crown Vic front end.

    All the welding is done and when we went to drop the drivetrain back in... my prized 4-bolt manifolds crash into the original engine mount on the CV frame. I posted a pic where you can see the manifold flange just a little ways above the stand for the engine mount on the CV crossmember.

    I checked the Hot Heads site... they have a nice diagram showing how all of the headers they offer would absolutely not work. I am faced with either fabbing up a set of headers or... trying to find some kind of "rear dump" OEM manifolds. If the collector were moved back a bit, everything would be fine.

    I contacted Sanderson who made a beautiful set of manifolds for my 270 Dodge poly (hand-crafted engine by none other than 73RR). They can't move the collector back unless I send them my truck and (cough) $1500.

    So, anybody have any ideas?
     
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  5. In the big scheme of things 1500 for custom headers isn't bad and Sanderson in California isn't the only ones who'd do it, I'd do it for you in Ohio. I'd bet there's a few someone's in Detroit as well.

    Now you'll be into modifications someplace to get this done.
    Cut out or notch the offending CV parts.
    Modify a set of headers from a BBC, LS, or Ford
    Modifying your plan and Change the front end to suit the hemi or change the hemi to an engine that suits the front end and both of those seem way to drastic if just 1500 gets you out of the jam.

    I'd have to look at it the whole thing but my gut tells me hack the offending CV stuff out of the way would be the best way as that is the problem. Exhaust that doesn't fit is the symptom, but without looking or being familiar with the CV setup modify or custom make the exhaust might be easier
     
  6. Something to think about
    Modify or build your own
    image.png image.png image.png
    Very primitive but Something like these could be turned around with a turndown collector
    Make them nicer if you want
    image.jpg
     
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  7. 73RR
    Joined: Jan 29, 2007
    Posts: 7,175

    73RR
    Member

    Jon, very interesting dilemma and I'll expand on our PM.
    As said, I'd look hard at the CV parts and see how much whittling could be done in order to clear a 3" pipe.
    Also, as mentioned, we have in years past, used brand 'x' headers that fit the chassis and welded on Hemi flanges to suit the build. This can be a bit time consuming but well within reason, dollar wise. The biggest issue will be with the flange angle on the Hemi compared to all other engines.
    This is a Gibson header, no idea what the application is (flange looks like bbc)(stole the pic off the web) but the basic design looks promising. No doubt someone there could ID the part.
    [​IMG]

    .
     
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  8. That's an ls manifold pattern holes on center
    BBC hole pattern is high low high
     
  9. 73RR
    Joined: Jan 29, 2007
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    73RR
    Member

    ....it could be just about anything in my world...just not EarlyHemi...:p just thought the design could offer something of value.

    .
     
  10. jack_pine
    Joined: Jan 20, 2007
    Posts: 353

    jack_pine
    Member
    from Motor City

    We ordered LS manifolds & Hemi flanges from Patriot because they have a "tight tuck" piece which has rear dump & is tight to the engine. Here is a pic of a hemi exhaust gasket laid over the LS manifold received_1858673194237688.jpeg

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  11. Maybe a marine exhaust of some sort can be modified?
    upload_2019-4-8_8-23-44.jpeg
     
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  12. jack_pine
    Joined: Jan 20, 2007
    Posts: 353

    jack_pine
    Member
    from Motor City

    I would love to run something like that but from my understanding, they have to be cooled... they are used to being cooled by lake water!
     
  13. George
    Joined: Jan 1, 2005
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    George
    Member

    Industrial ones look similar.
     
  14. Little pushing after the cutting and you’ll be good.

    I made oval transitions to round to take advantage of the large ports and funnel into round primary tubes.
     
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  15. 73RR
    Joined: Jan 29, 2007
    Posts: 7,175

    73RR
    Member

    Wow.
    So... shiverlay parts do have some value...;) The angle to the head should be easy to address.

    .
     
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  16. jack_pine
    Joined: Jan 20, 2007
    Posts: 353

    jack_pine
    Member
    from Motor City

    Well....we keep trying. This set from Patriot hits the starter. I basically need a block hugger with offset collector. Pics show yellow box where collector needs to be. Last pic shows the optimal space where headers would fit. @31Vicky...if your shop were closer....vehicle is in TN right now. received_427255071376636.jpeg received_2135956783153680.jpeg

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  17. I can’t really move it lol

    The standard issue block huggers won’t work?
     
  18. The 4 in a row layout gives room different than
    2 +2
    And there’s a little different things in all of them 558890C0-1D69-40C6-8AB9-D276DF58C609.png CABE0B4B-CB13-441E-851E-E0AA55D00630.png
     
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  19. KFC
    Joined: Jul 17, 2008
    Posts: 445

    KFC
    Member
    from UK

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  20. 8thdaycr8
    Joined: May 26, 2006
    Posts: 130

    8thdaycr8
    Member

    I had my headers made with cutouts and then had them coated. This is for my 270 Hemi.
     

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  21. George
    Joined: Jan 1, 2005
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    George
    Member

    [​IMG] 300 intakes were cast after hemi production ended!
     
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  22. So what do you make of that?
     
  23. George
    Joined: Jan 1, 2005
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    George
    Member

    I'm guessing high demand from drag racers caused extra runs. The posting in another Forum where I grabbed the photo reports casting dates as late as '64!
     
  24. SEAAIRE354
    Joined: Sep 7, 2015
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    SEAAIRE354
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    I’ve read on other threads that they continued to make them for marine applications. I have one in storage that I’m interested to see when it was made.


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  25. George
    Joined: Jan 1, 2005
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    George
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    That isn't a marine intake. Marine intakes are 2 piece & bolt together.
     

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