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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by logic2, Nov 10, 2013.

  1. logic2
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    Any idea what vintage or application these Ford rims are from ?

    I just picked up these rims at a local farm auction which consisted mostly of the home owner's house furnishings and tools.
    These rims were piled up in the shop and sold along with an old MIG welder.


    Paid $35 for the entire set.
    Power washed and has no apparent cracks or damage.

    Bolt pattern: 5 x 4.5
    Diameter: 14"

    One of the rims is mated to an old Sears Tire.
    One of the rims still has a paper tag (hard to read) that states "59-64 Ford"


    Thanks for any info.
    Mike
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  2. squirrel
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    If there's any info on the rims, it will be on the back side....how about a close up of the back side of one rim? Or don't bother if there is no info there, which is common on no-name generic "mag" wheels from the 60s-70s.
     
  3. J C Penney.....
     
  4. BamaMav
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    I think that is the old Sears emblem on the center caps. No telling who made them if it is, Sears only sells stuff, they don't manufacture anything.
     

  5. logic2
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    Here is a photo of the back side (no stampings) and a photo of the side with a 14x6 - 67 stamping.

    Appear to be Torq Thrust style, but would be nice to see some vintage photos of their application.

    Thanks
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  6. logic2
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    All good info.

    Thanks for the background.
     
  7. logic2
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    You are right on the center cap design.
    Just checked out "sears center cap" on Ebay - and you are correct.

    Thanks
     
  8. blowby
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    I thought so. Steel rims, I have a set of those. Much heavier than all alum. Mine I think are Fenton but probably came out of the same factory. Good score for the price.
     
  9. squirrel
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    Interesting, my 1970 Sears catalog offers that style wheel as Cragar brand with Cragar center caps. Lots of companies made that style wheel, lots of places sold them.
     
  10. Hdonlybob
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    Interesting thread, and another example of the knowledge and depth of the HAMB.
    Also, you really did well on that price !!
    Good for you...
     
  11. I have a pair of these-steel and aluminum wheels, mine are marked M/T on backside.
    SPEEDY
     
  12. Not sears.... These have the 'styled' J, C, and P if you look closely and were sold by Penneys. I believe these were made by Fenton.....
     
  13. squirrel
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    Sounds good Steve. Nice catch.
     
  14. wombat barf
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    trivia: those caps and most other caps of the torque thrust knock-offs of the era used the same 2 1/8 caps as the original torque thrust rims so if you are missing your original caps or just don't want to risk losing your originals you can buy a repop set for original torque thrust off ebay and run 'em instead.
     
  15. Black Panther
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    Those are absolutely Sears center caps and probably Sears wheels too...the letters are a stylized SR...you are looking at it upside down..I have seen that same logo on a lot of Sears things, clock radios etc...but like others have said...they didnt make stuff, they just sold them. Dont know who made them for Sears..Penneys wheels were known as A/FX amongst others..

    Here is a picture from another thread showing the same cap. In this closeup you can see its a S and an R
     

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  16. Panther, you are correct these are SR (Sears Roebuck) wheels and caps. J.C. Penneys sold the brands Foremost, A F/X, el tigre, and T/T (Track Tamer) for their wheel lines.
     
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  18. Black Panther
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    Checked out Macs thread on the guages...same logo...Sears used that SR logo for a few years....later 60s into the early 70s I think....
     
  19. 61Zliner
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    Mike,
    Still a great buy for front steer vintage street rod, now to match them to a set of rears, considering a set of "old" American 15's I puchased after searching for four years and a grand later. THe wide Americans for the Ford 9" I had already cost about the same.
    Matching the cleaning and resto work so they are similar in appearance took me a few months on the patio and a rigged homebilt wheel lathe.
    Do set an old "street Only" car show Gasser off though.
    Sonny
     
  20. 32-3 WINDOW
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    those are definitely sears roebuck center caps , the wheels are probably the same as all the places had the torque thrust style wheels .
     
  21. Bugguts
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    Cool buy. I have a center cap like that, doesn't take up much space hanging on the wall, but I would rather have the wheels.
     
  22. blue 49
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    I got a pair of these with my project. One is not marked on the back and the other says "Sears and Roebuck" and "Rader". I plan to paint them and run them. They're made for a push thru cap.

    Blue
     
  23. oldskoolshop
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    want to sell them?
     
  24. NMCarNut
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    Maybe in the later years Sears got wheel manufacturers to make a special runs of wheels with only ID numbers in back, no brand names. Apparently in 64 Sears didn't hide who made them, witness my Sears "Crager SS" wheel:
     

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