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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by S10_37, Jun 30, 2020.

  1. S10_37
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  2. alchemy
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    Is that a tudor? If so, it's just a 30-31 Ford.
     
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  3. WTF really
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    Doesn't that fuel shutoff make it a 31?
     
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  5. wheeldog57
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    Sure looks like 30-31 Ford to me. Late 31 had teardrop shaped indent where fuel shut off is.
    I may be mistaken but. . . Murray's and/or Briggs did not have removable gas tank like the Ford.
    Good luck S10.
     
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  6. alchemy
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    Later 31's had a indent around the fuel shutoff. Pretty sure (money back guarantee if I'm wrong) the early 31's had a smooth firewall like a 30.
     
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  7. You are correct Alchemy. The 1928-29 Fordors had the hidden tank, not the 1930-31 models
     
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  8. 1930-Ford-Model-A-Murray-Body-2-630x390.jpg and the way to tell if it is a Murray or Briggs body (if a 4 door sedan) is the the tops of the doors just above the windows has a slight curve to it if it is a Murray, the Briggs is straight there. This is a Murray body, see the top of the door glass.
     
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  9. rusty valley
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    thats just a sediment bowl on the firewall, the fuel shut off is still inside on the tank until the late 31 indented pain in the ass fire wall came out. i have two pain in the ass fire walls, and i got tired of opening the hood to shut off the gas so i made a line back into the car, with a valve inside, then back out the fire wall.
     
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  10. woodiewagon46
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    The indented firewall was introduced in May of 1931. Rectangular reinforcements on the interior side of the firewall, near the radiator support bracket's were added beginning in October of 1930.
     
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  11. sloppy jalopies
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    does it have a steel of wooden subfloor ?
     
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  12. woodiewagon46
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    I'm sorry that I didn't think of this in my previous post, but in mid 1930, Murray and Briggs placed their body style/ number plate or coach builder plate just below the Ford Patent Plate. I don't see their plate on your firewall. If someone removed their plate there should be two small holes under the Patent Plate If not, your body is a Ford body, as others have suggested.
     
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  13. S10_37
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    steel but i cut it all out and made replacement skeleton from tubing
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  14. sloppy jalopies
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    any briggs or murrays that I have had had wooden subfloors... if you have one stash the 2 rivet body # tag... handy later...
     
  15. Scared the hell out of me, thought it was some kind of forensics :p
     
  16. making me dizzy...
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  17. 31Apickup
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    Briggs and Murray also did other A bodies than the for Ford. Those for Ford had wood subrails, but coupes and tudors had metal subrails. My 31 coupe is a Briggs built body, Murray and Ford also built coupe bodies. Not sure if only Ford built the Tudor’s.


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