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H.A.M.B. how it's made. (slightly OT)

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Beau, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. Beau
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    Yesterday I was using the bench vise to press out a busted perch pin. While I was pushing on the vise handle I wondered how they got that handle on there?

    It's a solid bar with two round ends. My best guess is that they stamp or press the ends to make the ball somehow. But how do the chrome them?

    I'm sure it's something simple, but it would be fun to know.
     
  2. birdman42
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    One of the many unexplained mysteries of universe.lol Google it.
     
  3. Here is how I would do it. I have no idea how it is actually done.

    I would machine a boss on the shaft that is about 0.001" to 0.002" larger diametrically then the corresponding hole in one of the balls. The shaft goes in the freezer, and when it comes out, the shaft has shrunk enough that the ball simply slips on. Once the shaft warms back up to room temp you have a .002" interference fit, and the ball never comes off again.
     
  4. reverse osmosis.
     

  5. TexasDart
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    wow...birdman42...I graduated PB High in 74. Just was back there last week. Just saying HI.
     
  6. birdman42 and TexasDart, PB is my home town as well.

    Beau, don't know how they do ball ends on the vise handle. But I bet if you called the manufacturer they would probably tell you.
     
  7. Beau
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    :rolleyes:


    How do they chrome it once it's put on then?
     
  8. Chevy48
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    My drill-press has a similar chrome-handle. I had to look "really" close to see that one of the balls is actually screwed onto the end of the shaft.

    Got a picture?
     
  9. Beau
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    This was an old vise. Tough as nails. The ball isn't screwed on though.
     
  10. RagtopBuick66
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  11. Beau
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    Pure Fucking Magic?
     
  12. I was going to say that the balls on the handle of a modern vise are pressed or pinned or screwed on.
     
  13. Last modern vises I bought had rubber rings to hold the handles in. The rubber didn't hold up to solvents, heat, or being mounted out in the weather on truck bumpers too well and this was on a several otherwise decent $300 Rigid vises.
     
  14. Beau
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  15. "T'RANTULA"
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    My vise is made out of an anvil, my great great granpaw took a large anvil and cut it in half and machined it into a vice!! Looks cool and works great.. What were we talkin about again?
     
  16. Bruce Lancaster
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    Wilton Bullet!

    Vise handles, those pliers with one side that passes through a tiny slot in other side, planetary transmissions, Twinkies...we have NO idea, none.
    Aliens bring them here by the pallet load and they are distributed...that's it.
    All we know.
    We just have to pray the aliens are generous because they are nice, not because they plan to eat us.
     

  17. If you get up close and personal on the wilton you will probably find that one of the balls will come off although I did have an old wilton when I was working in the oil patch that the handle was forged. It was an extremely old vise.
     
  18. 3wLarry
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    Ryan...Bruce is off his meds again...
     
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  19. Hackerbilt
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    Hold on...flawed thinking right there!

    BEAU can't speak Chinese! :p
     
  20. Mr48chev
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    I unscrewed the ball off the end of the handle of one of my vises a while back by accident. I've got a cousin to that Wilton that I need to rebuild so I can use it. I dug it out of the scrap bin behind the high school ag shop 30 years and it has been in my shed ever since.
     
  21. Beau
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    The Wilton was scored from a garage sale for $5. It's a very nice vise. When you turn the handle, each way, it moves right away. No slop.

    I thought the Chinese all knew how to speak English?

    The only vise I have from out of the country is made in Japan and that handle on that loks like it's all one piece too.

    I don't buy new vises. The old ones works better.
     
  22. RagtopBuick66
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    Jesus, how long does it take you to rebuild a CAR?!? LOL
     
  23. AZAV8
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    Will you tell my wife you found a use for 30 year old junk? She is always after me to throw away my junk. Its not junk, I just haven't found a use for it yet. She also gets mad at me for new junk I want to bring home. Can you imagine that?
     
  24. it's done with smoke and mirrors (magic) !!
     
  25. RagtopBuick66
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    My dog's balls were removed. He's been worthless without them, too. He may be happy to know they can be screwed back on...
     
  26. It's actually two halves welded in the centre. The tricky bit is that the weld is made in such a way that it is always behind the screw centre.

    Cosmo
     
  27. RagtopBuick66
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    OK, so when you slide the handle from one side to the other, you're suggesting that the weld "migrates"?
     
  28. Bigchuck
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    from Austin, TX

    [QUOTE="T'RANTULA";7850059]My vise is made out of an anvil, my great great granpaw took a large anvil and cut it in half and machined it into a vice!! Looks cool and works great.. What were we talkin about again?[/QUOTE]
    Show us a picture!
     
  29. Thorkle Rod
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    The mystious installation of that handle was developed by Herman Dickfer the 3rd. The Dickfer process requiries that a bulbus shaft be shoved with extreme pressure into a small hole under hot temperature and an adequate amount luibrcation from the small center hole in the shaft. This process is repeated over and over until the balls are sufficiently formed and dried. This process will eventually empty your wallet if not handled properly.
     
  30. had a customer try to "help" me when i was working at my vise, he loosened the handle which was in the eleven o'clock position, then let it go. it swung down and hit me right in the "you know whats"... hurts to think about it.
     

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