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"Gowjobs": Depresion Era Performance and Early day hop-up tech

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by MrModelT, Aug 13, 2010.

  1. Stogy
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  2. Stogy
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    I did a pretty extensive Google Patent search on Winterfronts and came up dry...:oops:...many shapes and styles but none that resemble the one hanging in the pic which is distinctly Model T. Peerless also made Winterfronts but no hits either...

    I am wondering if that might be a non Ford OEM but aftermarket knock off Item as looking at the car sitting there makes me believe it may not even be a Ford Dealership but a 1920s Napa store of sorts featuring many Ford items...
     
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    That's a mid-twenties Ford dealership. Every sign on the counter advertises a Ford item, there's a Lincoln model L on display and a Ford logo is barely distinguishable in the window. Every parts/accessory dealer photo I've seen shows an awful lot more stock and multiple vendor-supplied displays. The grille in question is probably aftermarket, there's curvature in the top triangle (bowing out) that isn't there in the stock piece.
     
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    Great find!
     

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  5. Bigcheese327
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    That car is incredible. Are those 19-inch Model A wheels?
     
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    1925 Ford parts detail.jpg

    :rolleyes:...This is a pretty high res shot you shared Cheese...the bars looked fixed by machine screws top and bottom to a fixed cross bar... @SR100 have a look at the pic...those look clearly to be guards not vanes similar to Rajo's shell and the shell clearly has the Ford Script...wonderful blast from the past...

    Thanks for clarifying the Lincoln and verifying the fact it is a Ford Dealership...

    Credit to Photographer, Owner
     
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    It's because I went direct to the source. Lots of good photos on Shorpy of early dealerships and parts stores.
     
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    Funny I was thinking Shorpy...and low and behold...that really helped identify it...there is a vertical black panel the shell is hung up on which gives the illusion of vanes...this shell may be chrome to boot...

    It clearly highlights a vulnerability the T and A Rads shared despite being pretty robust to damage...
     
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    If you look real close at the hood lacing holes on that T shell they look to be square/ rectangle NOT round. 99.9% sure it is a pre 1926 STEEL T shell that has been chromed. The plated shells Ford offered starting in 1926 were brass with round holes for the lacing. The round holes resisted cracks, and punched easier than steel. Now you can ID a brass T shell from 20 feet if you have good eye sight. :):)


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    The filename and it's just a name says 1925...clearly a rare item that highlighted a concern and a need for future change that took place at Ford in 1932...
     
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    02.jpg

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hemmings.com/stories/2016/08/12/forties-fronty/amp

    :rolleyes:...Another vintage HopUp captured by Hamber @Bigcheese327 sporting many changes including a Fronty engine, secondary transmission, Ruckstell axle...and even has a grille guard similar to Rajo Jack's...

    Now this Gowjob is perhaps at the late end of the spectrum for this thread pushing the early 40s however it certainly has inspiration reaching back to the heyday of the heart of it all...

    Credit to Photographer, Owner
     
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  12. I would say so, looks to be mounted on A brake drum - looks to me to be to large to be just the T hub. :)
     
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    Wow, that is quite an optical illusion. I thought the top section had more 'belly' than a stock one, but that might be reflection. Now that we know what it is, what are the three chains dangling from it? Replacement links for tire chains or???
     
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    I took that photo. Looking over the Wilcox car, I had the feeling it had been together for quite a while by 1940 but, of course, there was no documentation. It reminded me of this Sterling Garage car:

    Sterling Garage 02.jpg Sterling Garage 01.jpg
     
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    I was thinking they might just wrap under the crossmember and hook onto a lip and help anchor the assembly and the 3 knobs just above the top crossbar may have rendered this guard removable...this guarded shell could have been perhaps directed towards forestry or off road operations with potential pokey objects...and even racing...
     
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  16. RodStRace
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    Stogy, neat find on Rajo Jack!
    This is just a wild guess, but judging from all the other lights on the car, it may be a series of little lights, kind of like Christmas lights strung across the shell.
     
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  17. Bigcheese327
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    I hadn't noticed the question about what's going over Rajo Jack's radiator. I'll bet it's cord to stabilize the radiator during hard road driving so it doesn't crack.
     
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  18. The37Kid
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    Just viewed the enhanced photo that bigcheese327 posted on November 11, 2020. The ROUND lacing holes are clearly visible in that photo, so the shell is nickle plated brass. Bob
     
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