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Give thanks for the Banger Meet Nov. 2010

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  1. Crazydaddyo
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    It's a new month, let's get this month started


    Here is the banger link list .



    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Flat Ernie maintains the monthly link list. Every month is listed:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498



    Banger basics. another info link list:

    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    Post #105 of link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=6


    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculatorfin.jsp


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/22469332/The-High-Speed-Internal-Combustion-Engine-Ricardo-1931

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

    Maybe these links should be posted early in each months meeting.

    If anyone knows of more, please post them.
     
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  2. Bluto
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    54 Days till Christmas!!!!
     
  3. junk yard kid
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    I drove my RPU this weekend, 50 miles in the rain. It was real fun. It ran and drove great but was a little squirrely on some corners. Had breakfast at the barret cafe and a couple beers by this old burned down house.
     

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  4. Crazydaddyo
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    Do you think Santa will bring that 5 main block you want?

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  5. -Brent-
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    Somebody visited eBay today... hahaha.
     
  6. kenagain
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    from so cal


    Looking good there if ya see Bill I have all the stuff for his dizzy in his project
     
  7. Bluto
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    Sure maybe in 10-12 years!!:)
     
  8. Zig Zag Wanderer
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  9. andyg
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    in the spirit of thankfulness....i am thankful to my father for passing on the "fun of having an old car" torch!
     
  10. loozer72
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    Alright guys have my engine turning over good and has compression. Now time for a carb. Has any one tried to run 2 carter yf carbs. on a model a. Engine is stock but one day do more to it. Right now I just trying to get her banging around town and can get these cheap enough. I don't post much but read the banger thread almost everyday you guy's are great and the info. in every months thread is awesome.
     
  11. Stovebolt
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    Guys,

    Wow a new month's worth of great Bench racing on the HAMB ;)

    Can anyone tell be if a 34 BB bellhousing will bolt to the ring on the back of a Model?

    There's one for sale and I need to know before I buy it and send it 1/2 way around the world.

    I want to put a camaro/S10 T5 behind a banger
     
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  12. BCCHOPIT
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    No...:( the A and B are not the same.
     
  13. Crazydaddyo
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    I haven't used the YF, but I've been eyeing the YH which is the side draft version of the same carb. I was looking at using two on a fairly mild flat head. I've run the YH on a turbo Corvair and it worked good. I think C. Yapp is figuring on using three on the "new" Roof OHV head he is making.

    Like you said, they are cheap enough to try. They should work better then two model A carbs.

    The YH's that I'm looking at have a 1 1/4" venturi. It should flow a little better then a Stromberg 81.

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  14. Stovebolt
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    Thanks. There was something in the deep recesses of my thick head that made me uncertain, hence the question.

    Long live the banger :D
     
  15. Crazydaddyo
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    Mark,
    I have a AA bell if you need one.

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  16. Crazydaddyo
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    Thanks a ton. Added it back to the list !!!!!!!!!!


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  17. Stovebolt
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    2 YF Carter carbies soothe a blue flame six, so should suffice a banger's appetite.

    If you run an intake that suits a 97, you'll need a pair of adapters to suit the 2 bolt flange of the Carter.

    There is a guy making Tattersfield adapters to run 97's on chev intakes, so these will work upside-down on an Ansen or a Riley
     
  18. Stovebolt
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    Thanks Dan,

    PM sent
     
  19. Also seen a few for sale on Fordbarn recently.-Weeks

     
  20. ok... who can give me a bit of a nudge in the knowledge department on putting a sbc harmonic dampner on a model b crank. is it as easy as looking at a pulley and maching it to match? or is there something else that i have to look at
    thanks
    tk
     
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  21. Bluto
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    I've run 4's damperless pretty damn hard and never had a problem. That's my nudge away.
     
  22. Nice Rpu, Just done?

    I wouldn't use "Driveing in the rain" and "fun" in the same sentance! Ha Ha
     
  23. After I broke 2 counterbalanced drilled for pressure "A" cranks at #4 rod throw $$ I asked Taylor Engine about the problem and was advised to install SBC balancer. Ran the 2 port for 3+ years redlined at 4 grand with no crank problems. I'm now using "C" crank in that engine. My Winfield flathead, 82 MPH 1/4 mile has a "B" crank, counter balanced and drilled for pressure, stroked using "A" Skokie inserted rods. I think there is a design flaw in the stock "A" "B" crank that is further weakened by drilling for pressure. I would not run without a dampener. These parts are getting old and fatigued. Taylor Engine makes a SBC dampener kit and the repop Winfield dampener is available. I realize that many do feel the same as I do and they run without dampeners but I use them. I tell those that drive my car to just wind it up and drop the clutch and keep their foot in it.
     
  24. junk yard kid
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    Sorta ive had it on the road for a year. But yeah i thought to myself when i made the front spreader bar, that that was it. i just need to paint it and get the seat covered and its done. But i am gunna build the B block and with c crank i have for it.
     
  25. i went to taylors website and down loaded the catalog, but the dampener they sell doesn't work with a stock motor mount.. any idea why
    tk
     
  26. I would guess it is the location of the dampener itself. The winfield is advertised to fit with the stock setup but might need some clearance. I split the 32 type front mount sold by most vendors.
     
  27. Piewagn
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    Ok, about my coil issue. I understand about the cooling issue with the coil mounting being "inverted", but, all Model A coils are mounted this way. There were no issues with coils before I redid the car. I did, however, replace the ignition harness. Did I inadvertantly remove a resistor when replacing the harness?? I'm still running 6 volt Pos. ground. What am I missing here?? Would a higher generator output take the coil out? Should I move the brush to reduce Gen output? I'm kinda baffled with this one. Thanks Guys!!
     
  28. So what did you change? There is no resistor that I remember on a stock "A". I've rewired um and hot wired um. Ran coils that I found on a shelf behind the barn. I wasn't sure what they came off of, 4 cyl, 6 cyl, 8, Tractor or car or truck as long as I felt they were 6 volt and fit the bracket. I used to work with a guy that, at this point, would say "I guess God just doesn't want you to run that settup"
     
  29. Piewagn
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    I removed the stock dist and installed a Mallory points dist.......that's it!!

    "I guess God just doesn't want you to run that settup"

    Man, that IS just my luck!

    I'm lookin' at a Wico mag, do they have an integral mechanical advance? Any feedback on magnetos and sources??
     
  30. Crazydaddyo
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    None of the mags for the A/B Ford had Mech. Advance.
    I have run a couple of different mags and have not found any advantage over a good modern pointless ignition for general every day use. IMHO the Ford banger just doesn't spin up enough RPM to take full effect of a magneto.

    I'm running a FSI distributor and love it. Mags look cool, but the not very practical in a every day driver.

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