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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by retiredblue, Sep 28, 2010.

  1. retiredblue
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    OK I have gone around and around can someone please ID this block for me- its a Ford and its supposed to be a 302. Anyone have a clue?? its all I know about it and I'd like to finish it off and get it on the road, Thanks in advance
     

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  2. squirrel
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    E0AE is a 1980 engineering number.
     
  3. retiredblue
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    does this mean its an 80 302?
     
  4. Ford-Man
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    It is an '80 Windsor block, either 302 or 351. Measure the bore and stroke...see what you have.
     

  5. squirrel
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    or post a picture of the block from the normal front/top view, standing back a ways, so we can see how wide it looks. 351W is a lot taller deck than the 302
     
  6. retiredblue
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    here we go I can post more pics
     

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  7. squirrel
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    sure looks like a 302
     
  8. 65COMET
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    The quick way to tell on that engine with the heads on, is a 302 is 5&3/8" across the intake flat between the heads,a 351 is around 9".I just went out and measured my 289 which is the same size as a 302. ROY.
     
  9. retiredblue
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    2 other views- I know thats a HUGE crank pulley, but I think it'll work it all lines up I's still in the dry fit stage
     

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  10. EL DIABLO69
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    looks like a 302 to me
     
  11. retiredblue
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    yup 5 3/8 across, now the question is is it an 80 or an 80's (like 81-89?)
     
  12. redtracker
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    if you pull the valve covers off i forget what side i belive drivers side it will be stamped on there it is on my 351 anyways
     
  13. squirrel
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    Look around on the block some more, see if you can find the casting date code. should be one number, one letter, and one or two numbers.

    example 2 E 15 would read as

    2 = 1982
    E =5th month = May
    15 = 15th day of month
     
  14. johnnie
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    Date codes will help.
     
  15. AnimalAin
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    The pitiful little 255 was built in '80 as well. I hope you have a 302.
     
  16. Dyce51
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    this may help...

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  17. retiredblue
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    man I hope this does it
     

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  18. Ford-Man
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    Picture one has casting date E0AE...to me reads as 1980...however I may have forgot how to read Ford date castings.
     
  19. retiredblue
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    well M=13 right? man this is tough
     
  20. squirrel
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    I think that casting date makes it a 1983 model year engine.

    Oh yeah...I forgot about the little engine they made....what do the heads say on top?
     
  21. retiredblue
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    nothing I can see Im not sure what he means by on top of the heads- jeezzz this cant be that tough I mean it is for me but wtf first I couldnt find a smaller crank pulley now this man its alrady 100 degrees here in Covina
     
  22. retiredblue
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    Man this is a pisser huh?
     
  23. retiredblue
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    comon now please don't give up now
     
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  25. retiredblue
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    well I have been all over that engine and them is the only numbers I could find i guess I am hosed
     
  26. Ford-Man
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    E=80's
    0=1980

    If it were E4...it would be 1984.

    If it were C4, it would be 1964.

    If it were D4, it would be 1974.

    Ford date casting is far from rocket science.

    Look up the bore spec for the 255, and the 302. I am sure there are some differences. Since there is nothing in the valley (the area that the intake covers where you can see the pushrods) and it is not in my garage, I have no clue what size it is. The measurement you made points to a 302, but it is anyones guess.

    The top of the head is the area covered by the valve cover.

    Indeed, get a book and start specing your stuff out. You will find that you will retain more info if you have to look a little rather than having someone spell it out for you. There are a few decent websites that disect Ford casting numbers at length which would give you a better understanding of what you have.

    As copied from Wiki:

    In 1980, a very urgent need to meet EPA CAFE standards led to the creation of the 255 cu in (4.2 L) version, essentially a 302 with the cylinder bores downcored to 3.68 in (93.5 mm). Rated power (SAE net) was 115-122 hp (86-91 kW), depending on year and application. Cylinder heads used smaller combustion chambers and smaller valves and the intake ports were ovals whereas the others were rectangular. The only externally visible cue was the use of an open runner intake manifold with a stamped steel lifter valley cover attached to its underside, giving the appearance of previous generation engines, such as the Y-Block and the MEL. It was optional in Fox chassis cars including the Mustang and corporate cousin Mercury Capri, Thunderbird, Fairmont, and standard equipment in the Ford LTD. Poorly received thanks to its dismal performance and mediocre fuel economy, it was dropped after the 1982 model year, and is considered one of the worst modern Ford engines.

    Hope this helps. By the looks of the heads, you have rectangle ports...so I would say you have a 302. Now start building it already!
     
  27. Although the E0AE indicates an engineering date of 1980, these blocks weren't generally used until 1981 and continued through 1985, and the date code tells us Dec 3 1982
    it would be a 302 from a full size car or Pickup.
    Judging by the balancer # it a 1982 Pickup or Bronco motor
     
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  28. brad chevy
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    Look on the bottom of the block where the starter sits and there is a number stamped the on a pad that will tell you everything you need to know,if you can:t figure it out post the no. See there,fellows,Chevy guys do know alittle about Fords.
     
  29. johnnie
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    x2.
     
  30. Ford-Man
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    Based off of this, you are saying that a 1985 Bronco could have a block cast as E0AE? Odd. I always thought they changed casting numbers when the year changed?

    I would not use the balancer to indicate when my block was cast. Just my opinion. The balancer probably came off of an '82 truck...my guess is the block was made in '80.
     

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