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Hot Rods Flathead Starter Woes

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Sheep Dip, May 5, 2017.

  1. Sheep Dip
    Joined: Dec 29, 2010
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    from Central Ca

    Looking for an answer from all of you Flathead V8 parts Guru's.
    A while back I was trying to replace my starter in my Flathead this is what came out, the old style Henry Ford impact spring on the end
    upload_2017-5-5_16-16-22.jpeg This is what they sent me as a replacement
    upload_2017-5-5_16-18-46.jpeg I could no way shape or form get the end of this starter past my flywheel/ring gear? My only thought, was I have a Truck bell housing which is cast and a little thicker vs a steel which is thinner.

    I ended up with this and am happy but I'm at a loss as to why the replacement would not fit other than the bell housing thickness.

    Any info just for general knowledge is welcome. upload_2017-5-5_16-16-22.jpeg upload_2017-5-5_16-18-46.jpeg upload_2017-5-5_16-24-6.jpeg
    upload_2017-5-5_16-24-6.jpeg
     
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  2. Dirty Dug
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    I had the same problem with a stamped steel truck bell housing. The "new and improved" version would not fit.
     
  3. Bandit Billy
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    I am using this on my 8BA
    upload_2017-5-5_17-2-16.png
    I changed the flywheel to an aluminum one, this starter engages perfect. It bounced a bit across the top of the ring gear at first. I had to removed the starter adapter plate, elongate the mounting holes, dowel it and the bell housing so it wouldn't move back and for ease of install. Other than that, it works great on my blower motor.
     
  4. Sheep Dip
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    The high torque starter fixed it for me too. I'm real curious as to why this so called replacement flat ass won't work and alls they need to do is slightly reduce the diameter of the impact snubber.
     
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  5. lodaddyo
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  6. Bandit Billy
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    I have an original starter you can have free for shipping expense.
     
  7. The tractor style bendix will fit with a bit of wiggling around, its a superior design, I ran into the same problem but it eventually popped in. They work well, havent broken it yet and its been several years since the swap.
     
  8. Petejoe
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    Yes they DO fit. I too thought they wouldn't. It does need to be angled just right to slide past the flywheel.
    It will go in.
    I installed two in and they work perfectly.


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  9. alchemy
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    What year pans are you guys having trouble fitting them into? I've seen them in the catalogs, but haven't bought one yet.
     
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  10. Sheep Dip
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    Mine was 48 truck motor/pan and bell housing. I tried every angle possible, even grease to see the contact points on the inside of the housing. Gave up and bought a high torqe mini.
     
  11. alchemy
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    A 48 truck used a late model style engine, so that is different than the pre 48 stuff I use. I would think the pre 48 pan would be even worse than a late model.
     
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  12. Petejoe
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    I installed two into a 40 pan.
    Went in after a little finagling and some cussing.


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  13. Gene Boul
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    Great send it to me.I can send you 20.00 or so for shipping? Gene @ 832-514-5668
     
  14. Gene Boul
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    Flathead starters can be a real problem. I ended up with three starters that were too long. I believe they are for an automatic! The only way to use one would be to cut out the back of the starter pocket!
     
  15. Petejoe
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    Yes Gene, I ordered an automatic starter by mistake one time. Frustrating.


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  16. Bandit Billy
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    So this brings up a good question. When I was having trouble aligning my mini high torque starter I had to knock the pocket out of my 8BA bell housing leaving an unsightly hole. I destroyed it taking it off, now what do I do?
     

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