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Technical Flathead starter 12 volt Found.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 48fordnut, Dec 15, 2020.

  1. 48fordnut
    Joined: Nov 4, 2005
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    I would like to start my flathead eng out of the frame.
    Looking at starter, and listening to others, the stock 6 volt works good for a while. I'm thinking aftermarket with a heavy duty drive.
    Any solid opinions?

    Thanks,

    jim
     
  2. 50 Merc Man
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    The stock 6volter actually becomes a “high torque “ starter believe it or not


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  3. 50 Merc Man
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    I have a 12 volt system in my Merc with a 6 volt starter in it
    I did have to replace the bendix spring in it, thought I was gonna have to replace the complete starter but was able buy the coil for it.



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  4. 19Fordy
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    Best bet is to keep using your 6 volt starter as it has tons of torque.
    Later if you convert your vehicle you can still use the 6 volt starter on 12v
    or convert the starter to 12V iof you want to. 6V starter will last a long time if you
    don't overheat it by long periods of continuous cranking. Fordbarn has info. on how it's done.
    Keep using the OEM Bendix style drive as it is the best. Much better than aftermarket repro.

    I used my 6V starter for many years after I converted my car to 12V. The Bendix spring finally broke so i replaced it and converted the 6V starter to 12V using the internal guts of a 1960's ford starter. Here's the conversion procedure shown on Fordbarn. Very inexpensive to do.
    https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211141&highlight=convert+starter+12v
     
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  5. Flathead Dave
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    I ran a the 6v flathead starter for years on a 12v system. Never had a problem.
     
  6. The 39 guy
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    I don't want to dismiss the opinion of some of the very knowledgeable members that have chosen to run the Ford starter modified or stock. That aside I thought I would mention that I have been using a Power Master #9507 12 volt High Torque Starter for 5 years with out a problem.
     
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  7. 48fordnut
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    I've used 6 volt starters in 12 volt situations, and have read the barn article.
    I don't have a starter to begin with.
    Was wondering which would be the best way to go.
     
  8. chevyfordman
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    I ran the 6 volt starter in my old sedan with 12 volt system and the only thing that happened was one of the bendix spring bolts broke. The bolt is a shouldered bolt so not readily available but I was lucky that an old electric shop had them in stock. Now I would just make one on the lathe. Just something to think about since you don't have a starter.
     
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  9. 41fastback
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    I had a 6v starter rebuilt to 12v at local rebuilder.
     
  10. Run a 6v started on 12v all the time with no issues.
     
  11. Boneyard51
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    An engine started with 12 volts on a 6 volt starter, usually starts quicker. The odd thing about DC starter motors is that they like more voltage, as opposed to less voltage! Low voltage causes them to heat and cause poor starting, due to slow, long turning.
    While not a Flathead, we converted a vehicle to 12 volts on the ranch back in 1962. Never had any problems with the starter for many, many years. Finally quit using it, starter still working. Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke.






    Bones
     
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  12. Model A Gomez
    Joined: Aug 26, 2006
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    I've ran 6 volt starters on 12 volts on several flatheads and Model A's and the only problem I've had was one bendix spring on a daily driver I had for 19 years.
     
  13. 51504bat
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    Whatever starter you end up with get one with the original style Bendix (like the one shown) not the newer enclosed style.
    original bendix.png
     
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  14. 48fordnut
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    Thank all of you ,esp Bat.

    Things got complicated today. Last night the lower heat went out .Today there went the starter money. Oh well. There is always next year.

    Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.

    Best wishes.

    jim
     
  15. razoo lew
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    Hey Jim, that hasn’t happened to me for 8 days!! It does lighten the wallet. Next year.
     
  16. 48fordnut
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    Razoo ,it hurts. This was stockpiled for 3 mos.
     

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