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Technical Flathead Motor Disassembly Is This Motor Bad???

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by GreaserJosh13, Feb 8, 2018.

  1. GreaserJosh13
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    Hey guys. Disassembling a flathead motor & when I removed one of the water pumps I saw this. Does this mean my motor is junk????
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  2. 55styleliner
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    Looks like it froze at some point. Does oil flow in the back channel? I imagine it does and you are correct in assuming it’s scrap.
     
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  3. tubman
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    I hate to say it, but I agree with "55styleliner".
     
  4. GreaserJosh13
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    Nooooooooooo!!!! Of course this find comes after spending 3 hours heating & removing the head studs, with only 1 breaking off in the block. Son of a B$&!h!!!!!! Damn!!!! So now what? Do I just continue to disassemble to keep all the parts off of it & then scrap the block? Ughhhhh!!!!


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  5. greybeard360
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    Stick a screwdriver up into the exhaust port right below it and see if it appears in that little window.

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  6. 55styleliner
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    First verify for yourself if that is an oil passage. But, my assumption is that Ford didn’t put that piece of metal there for no reason. It’s hard to imagine that it being broken will not affect anything.
     
  7. King ford
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  8. Well since you probably don't want all of your coolant blowing out the driver side exhaust, I'd be looking for a better one.
     
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  9. Speed Gems
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    Looks like that one is destined to become part of a new batch of 94's from China.:(:mad:
     
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  11. Jalopy Joker
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    yes, it is bad to the bone - Lady Luck might help you find a replacement - save until you find the replacement.
     
  12. GreaserJosh13
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    Save it for what purpose?


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  13. Rick & Jan
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    Cracked blocks make nice Flower Pots!! IMG_0583[2040].jpg
     
  14. flatjack
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    I always disassemble the engine and pressure test it before bothering with the studs.
     
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  15. GreaserJosh13
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    Ha ha. I like the flower pot idea. I think I'm gonna steal that idea. We'll see what the wife has to say about my yard art. Ha ha.


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  16. GreaserJosh13
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    Yeah. Lesson learned. I guess it wasn't a huge waste of time because I learned that by heating the studs with a torch & then rubbing an old candle against the hot stud to melt wax into the threads. Wax is wicked into the threads when it cools. I then used a pipe wrench to crank the studs out. Literally did it to every stud except the one that broke off in the block. So it obviously works. Got the idea from somewhere here on the H.A.M.B. So I learned a little & I'm sure I'll learn more as I pull the rest of the thing apart to save the parts from it. I'll just consider this a practice block. ‍Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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  17. blowby
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    I wonder if that couldn't be brazed or welded? The coolant would keep it cooler than an OHV exhaust port. Wouldn't do it though unless the rest of the block checked out first.
     
  18. GreaserJosh13
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    Well after seeing this can anybody point me in the right direction to another flathead. I live in Chino, CA. I will travel within reason. Thanks.


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  19. big duece
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    You should plant tomatoes in those, the iron would be super for the roots. But, you might have tomatoes that taste like oil.
     
  20. Torana68
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    well its right there where you can get at it, no cast iron repairers near you?
     
  21. GreaserJosh13
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    You think it can be repaired?


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  22. Torana68
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    ANYTHING can be repaired, looks like its easily accessable, get a quote form an expert welder (finding one will be the first hurdle) if the broken bit is there I wonder if it could be cold repaired?
    edit: repair of a stock block may not be worth it , more so with a nice ported and relieved block but cant help to ask before you flower pot it
     
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  23. and before you do have it checked out to see if there are any cracks or other issues.
     
  24. RichFox
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    Good candidate for Ardun heads.
     
  25. GreaserJosh13
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    Here's the answer to the screwdriver test. Cue the price is right loser horn.




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  26. RichFox
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    Give the block to a drag racer who runs a dry block with ports cut in the top and water jackets filled.
     
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  27. Like Blowby said, can this be repaired by welding or brazing????????
    One of the first coming to mind are the guys at H&H Flathead there in Calif. I know there are others.
    Keep us posted. I've got two flatheads to tear down and no telling what we may find.............
     
  28. Speed Gems
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    Maybe the guy who built this engine could use it.
    ind 7 and drag.JPG
     
  29. RichFox
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    I believe he could. Needs to cut exhaust ports in the front and rear of the block and out the heat riser port.
     
  30. alchemy
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    I guess the Arduns are the only realistic fix for this problem.
     

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