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Flathead Cam Timing/Phasing. How did you do yours.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by big jungle jim, Dec 27, 2004.

  1. big jungle jim
    Joined: Jun 29, 2004
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    big jungle jim
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    I know how to do cam timing no problem. The question is how to do it on the flathead as there is no adjustment on the cam gear. Flathead jack does a adjustable cam gear but it only goes up or down in 3 degree increments. What are your suggestions? I have never bothered on flatheads that i have built before but thought i would go the full hog this time round. So give us a clue on what to do. [​IMG]
     
  2. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    Flat Ernie
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    Jim - never seen this discussed wrt flatheads. But as you probably know, all else being equal, advancing a cam moves the powerband down & retarding it moves it up.

    Interesting topic though because there are no piston-to-valve clearances to worry about [​IMG]


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  3. Digger_Dave
    Joined: Apr 10, 2001
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    Jim and Ernie
    I just happen to be at the "cam timing" stage at the moment.

    The only solution for "fine tuning" the timing that I have been able to dig up; is an old timer circle track racer up here used to drill the gear mounting holes oversize and use ecentric bushings along with the offset gear holes. Each change of timing meant a different set of bushings. He told me that he made the bushings in 1 deg. offsets and when used with the offset timing gear, he could get about 8 deg. range.

    The one thing he stressed was, you better have a LOT of patience setting the combination up! He told me it could take 20 tries before he was satisfied.
     
  4. TV
    Joined: Aug 28, 2002
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    Jim, what are you trying to do? Are you going racing or are you just trying to change the band around for more fun on the street? Give me some info. and maybe I can help.I've done this a couple of times.--TV [​IMG]
     

  5. big jungle jim
    Joined: Jun 29, 2004
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    Dave, Thanks for the info, thought that might be the case. Surprised that no one has come up with a better way by now.

    TV, I am at the stage of installing the cam after checking the cam timing to the manufacturing set figures, the cam is out by about 2 degrees (not uncommon with new cams) so i need to adjust the cam where it sits on the cam gear so i get the correct reading. The engine will be going in my gasser for street and strip action. Cheers Jim
     
  6. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    Flat Ernie
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    Jim,

    Which way is it out? What cam are you running? You could chat with the cam manufacturer & get their take on the exact effect on your engine combo...2 degrees isn't a lot...

    I have also heard of using an offset crank key in a flatty, but can't remember where I heard/read that...or who makes 'em (if anyone).


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  7. 296 V8
    Joined: Sep 17, 2003
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    296 V8
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    from Nor~Cal

    Perhaps something like this would interest you?
    A friend of mine has these done up.
    [​IMG]
     

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