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First use of rack and pinion steering??

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by AlteredChevy, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. AlteredChevy
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    Does anyone know when automakers/racers first used rack and pinion? i know they were around in the late 60's but i was curious when and if they were used before that.

    thanks
     
  2. unkamort
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    There are probably earlyer, and better, examples but I know Triumph Herald (English) had it in 59/60. The earliest American production I can remember would be Pinto.
     
  3. Hackerbilt
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    There were a lot of different English cars around here back in the 50's and we've found a few mouldering hulks left in the woods that had R & P steering.
    Can't tell you what they were, except they were unitized construction and had round bottom chassis members up front.
    That might ring a bell with some of our British friends...???
     
  4. carcrazyjohn
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    Citroen's in the 30's
     

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    Not as early as the Citroen but 1950 MG TD.
     
  8. wvenfield
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    That icon of the motoring world, the AMC Pacer was the 2nd U.S. production model with R&P in 1975.
     
  9. hotrod-Linkin
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    citroen could not have used it in the 1930's ,it was not invented till way after wwii..as noted in my links above.
     
  10. enjenjo
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    He invented variable ratio rack and pinion, not rack and pinion steering. I have seen steam engines with rack and pinion steering from 1890.
     
  11. hotrod-Linkin
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    i don't think the question was about trains. woooo woooooo!!!!!!
     
  12. AlteredChevy
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    Thats awesome thanks guys
     
  13. The Citroen Traction Avant used it.
     
  14. carcrazyjohn
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    His 37 Citroen Traction Has it .That's how I know .Also is frontwheel drive and unibody ,Or unitized .Im still curious who was the first to use .Rack and pinion.
     
  15. DrJ
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    I vaguely remember seeing a picture of a steam powered "Traction Engine" (tractor) from the 19th century and thinking, "That's got rack & pinion steering!"
     
  16. Citroën 7CV (Traction Avant) had rack and pinion from June, 1936. And the entire line has been front wheel drive since 1934. As well as four-wheel independent suspension on all cars sine 1934. Firsts on all points, as far as mass-produced autos are concerned.

    For that matter, Citroën is currently the only manufacturer to have ever used hydraulic steering, ie: with no primary mechanical link to the steering wheel (there was a backup link, with about 1/2 turn free play).

    Cosmo
     
  17. rack and pinion concepts have probably been around longer then Jesus , just need to be applied to thingd like steering.
     
  18. ProEnfo
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