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Customs First pics of the golden Sahara in decades

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Moriarity, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Stogy
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
    Posts: 16,932


    Not disputing its sacred status...just saying it is a faded King...very cool but like a decayed mummy out of casket.

    I absolutely love the dusty gems in all their glory where they are found to this one deserves a museum status ressurection to really foreshadow its original intent...Jim would approve and be honored...even better if his loving widow would be here to see it. Go Larry Go...
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    Joined: Dec 14, 2009
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    S.F I agree, if someone takes this car and “ over restores it” it would be a shame
    It needs to be researched and done the way jim street and what ever ( the story is convoluted to say the least) customizers did back then to bring it back to its “ as shown” in the 50’s -60’s state .
    To see it now in its as found condition would be cool, but I think for most of us it’s just a clapped out relic with some cool history.

    The car cost jim street 75 large when he built it the first time, that almost $700 large in today’s money!
    Probably why street never redid it as he knew it would cost a ton and probably thought it wasn’t worth it, or he had his fun with it, whatever the reason.

    The new owner paid 350,000 for it, there’s a lot of room there to make this thing show worthy again.
    I keep saying it , but it’s worth saying again. Never mind the electronics but to get the pretty back on her and get her looking like she did back in her glory days I’m guessing her value would double. If the restoration is done correctly, as a restoration and not a new version.
  3. Stogy
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
    Posts: 16,932


    Perhaps that would be part of the restoration...there is a lot to know and obviously you are well aware of these special attributes that are hopefully not overlooked. They may be at Larry's place stored for the future process which really is just a assumption at this point. I totally understand overdone.

    Norman Timb's Custom comes to mind as a vehicle that was faithfully restored.




    Compliments to Hamber @rexrogers

    It can be done.

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  4. anthony myrick
    Joined: Sep 4, 2009
    Posts: 6,217

    anthony myrick

    I would rock that car as is
  5. Stogy
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
    Posts: 16,932


    One thing also to keep in mind is this was a Showcar...Shiny, Spiffy and Wild...not a Jalopy/Hotrod. Over the top was part of the package...So to me a Norman Timb's style restoration including those clear tires would be just the very least this icon deserves. I find it incredible that one would be willing to invest the huge amounts of money to achieve this but hey I'll be in awe of this should it happen...It is also just fantastic that it has been so well documented in its current state as that is incredible to see as well.
  6. Didn't see it mentioned but the Chris Craft Cobra seen behind the Golden Sahara in pictures sold for $140,000.

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  7. Hyfire
    Joined: Jun 18, 2004
    Posts: 1,232


    The buyer really is a neat guy. 16 years old and fighting the Japanese during WW2. Now, an afternoon with him would be fun.

    I LOVE both versions of this car. I don’t care what direction he takes, as long as people can see it. Great to see it out of storage and into an open collection!

    Cars like this shouldn’t be locked away in a dungeon. Rip that fucker apart for all I care. It’s in better hands now then it was a year ago.
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  8. sanfordsotherson
    Joined: Mar 21, 2005
    Posts: 953

    from So. Cal.

    Yeah, I'm really glad this car is finally out in the open to be viewed, instead of stored whatever condition it's in.

    I'm curious who the other bidders were...who 'almost' bought it? And who almost bought the Kookie Car too? ...which sold for even more than the GS.
  9. gonmad
    Joined: May 17, 2007
    Posts: 1,753


    I understand your point and all, but I’d much rather see Farrah Fawcett in her heyday than to look at her now and say “wow, I bet she used to be hot!!” LoL!
    If the new owner can make the GS “hot” again, I’d say get to it!! LoL! Just me tho.
  10. S.F.
    Joined: Oct 19, 2006
    Posts: 2,894


    And I understand your point of view... but I don't care how much plastic surgery you do on a 75 year old lady, she'll still never look as hot she was at 18.
  11. stanlow69
    Joined: Feb 21, 2010
    Posts: 4,669

    from red oak

    Looks like he already has a few Customs in his collection. The Van Halen 4-dr Merc(orange with white scallopes), the Fioto bubble topped Ford and the Gold 56 Lincoln Bubble topped car as well as a few others. Has any body been there before.
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  12. Gotgas
    Joined: Jul 22, 2004
    Posts: 6,867

    from DFW USA

    I bet Goodyear has a set of clear tires collecting dust in an old warehouse...
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  13. No ... but they did reproduce a set:

  14. Baumi
    Joined: Jan 28, 2003
    Posts: 2,536


    Man, and it is in Switzerland , of all places! Wish I could go and check it out!
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  15. Moriarity
    Joined: Apr 11, 2001
    Posts: 19,269

    Staff Member

  16. Like a Edsel 'Tucker or any other ugly vehicle It does nothing for me. What good is it you cant really use it? Not a driver. Not a drag race car. I had a 59 Ranchero. after a week I didn't want it any more. It wasn't a good car and wasn't a good truck. I found myself asking what good is it. Finally sold the Ranchero for $1500 and lost money on it. was glad to see it go.
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  17. 57JoeFoMoPar
    Joined: Sep 14, 2004
    Posts: 4,680


    Waiting with baited breath for all of the comments about how ugly it is from guys without custom cars.
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  18. And just who is the authority that decided that you have to own a custom car to know what is ugly? The vehicle in question isnot only ugly but Fugly
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  19. WiredSpider
    Joined: Dec 29, 2012
    Posts: 723


    In your opinion
  20. Spex84
    Joined: Mar 12, 2015
    Posts: 159

    from Canada

    So cool to see the Golden Sahara looking more like its creators intended!

    As for the custom-haters...just stop. Seriously. We get it.
    It's like joining a Marine Wildlife Preservation forum just to complain about how harbor seals are just "earless ugly dogs with crippled-up legs".
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  21. 57JoeFoMoPar
    Joined: Sep 14, 2004
    Posts: 4,680


    That's your opinion of it. I, for one, think it's a gorgeous car, especially the this first version of it. I also respect the history and significance of it; Barris-built with real ground-breaking stuff. Trying to push the envelope of custom cars . This thing had a TV in it. Think about that. How many decades would be have to wait for TVs, DVD players, etc, to find their way into cars. This one had it in the late 50s. Not to mention the skill and craftsmanship involved in actually creating a car like this. It's incredible.

    Though we share a common thread for the love of "traditional" rodding and customizing, I feel like the point of customs are lost on a lot of hot rodders. I also laugh at the irony of the fact that the HAMB has a now-96 page thread where people are complaining about "homogenized" hot rods, and someone builds some mind-blowing shit like the Golden Sahara, which is so far out of the box it's in a different zip code, and it gets called ugly. You can't win.
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  22. Tim
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 11,592

    from Raytown Mo

    That’s because it’s not really a car, truck, or any of the other things you listed.

    It’s basicaly an experimental concept car, that show cases loads and loads of tech developmenents that wouldn’t be common in vehicles for 50 some years. It’s a tech show piece, a resume, an advertisement.

    And in that regard it does it’s job very well.

    Do I have a use for that? Nope. But I get what it is.
  23. texasred
    Joined: Dec 3, 2008
    Posts: 1,078

    from Houston

    Always heard that fugly was in the eye of the cornholer, or something like that
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  24. Yes indeed we all have opinions. I also think the 57 ford because of the headlights was ugly. and a 65 ford fairlane was ugly. a 59 chevy was ugly and gaudy. the 60 chevy was a nice clean looking car. However different strokes for different folks. Who am I to judge why someone with more money than brains would pay a fortune for such a run down old has been vehicle.
  25. egads
    Joined: Aug 23, 2011
    Posts: 761


    It's called history, good or bad, it's what it was. Would you rather see it destroyed like a statue because you don't like what it stood for at the time?
  26. Sky Six
    Joined: Mar 15, 2018
    Posts: 1,522

    Sky Six
    from Arizona

    That's why they make Fords and Chevys... everyone here has a different opinion of what is cool or nice or whatever. Wouldn't it be just boring as hell to get on the HAMB and see the same old car.
    We all need to just enjoy the cars... like... I don't care if you like my 57 or not.
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  27. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 15,880


    This could be said about every single car on the HAMB. But we idiots keep rebuilding old cars when there are perfectly good brand new Hondas for sale across town.

    Old customs are dead! Long live old customs!
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  28. Just an FYI ...

    George Barris didn't have much to do with the build of the "Golden Sahara II".

    While it's true that Barris Kustoms built the (original) Golden Sahara [via designs supplied by Jim Skonzakes (aka Jim Street)]; Bob Metz, Henry Meyer, Delphos Machine & Tool Shop, and Jim Skonzakes are credited with updating the car to its "Golden Sahara II" iteration.
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2019
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  29. Stogy
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
    Posts: 16,932


    @JoeFoMoPar I have a couple things to say...I think both versions of the Golden Sahara are incredible and I have an open mind to all Traditional Customs celebrated truly is part of the umbrella that is the Hamb and Past Hotrod /Custom/Race History.

    I also believe you have completely missed what the Homogenized thread actually represents. I am a regular participant in the thread...and what it celebrates is the Hamb Period Hotrods/Racers that were different for any number of reasons with appearance being one of them...that raced or drove alongside the revered Hotrods here...many featured Hotrods in the thread are rejected by many much like the Sahara here in these last few pages...even though they are all part of the celebration of the period history of the movement. Many within the thread are actually iconic revered Hotrods themselves...Very little complaining of perceived Traditional Hotrods is ever done rather most posted are celebrated as what they are Relevant History, Traditional Hotrods and Racers and influencers of the movement...just like all the others.
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  30. Stogy
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
    Posts: 16,932


    A shout out to all providing continued restoration coverage and touring associated. It truly is an incredible Custom and Milestone of forward thinking and Technology embraced by those that saw the big picture.
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