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Hot Rods Filled or Smoothed Wheel Wells on a Fenderless Hot Rod?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by patmanta, May 24, 2019.

  1. Tim
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    I think he was referencing the black coupe above his post
     
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  2. Stogy
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    My apologies Bama I have reread that Title and yeah smoothing has been done in a huge way without involving tubbing and for all I know forms of tubbing existed prior to 1965...;)...I was 5 so I would have to really on imagery...and the history as spoken.
     
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  3. anthony myrick
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    I like this one
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    I could see a filler or panel made to fit flush like a fender skirt on lakes/salt build
     
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  4. Tim
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    The fender skirt idea really seems the best all around approach.

    It wouldn’t oil can and you keep the body line.

    Also if it’s purely for function you could in theory take it off for the street
     
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  5. anthony myrick
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    I think it would look cool on a car with a belly pan and severe chop
    Add to that Bonneville look
     
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  6. anthony myrick
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    This is a definite NO
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  7. Stogy
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    You are entitled to not like the look but many of those so called modded Lakes Roadsters however many there were drove Home with the Street Hoodlums attached...and went to work Monday morning and back home after driving same...some may have got kicked out of the club...to bad that is but it didn't stop the evolution...

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    :rolleyes:...oh Yeah...;)

    Yes it's race but this inspired smooth body mods within the Community whether its fiberglass or shop and garage built...like so much of this it has a following and owes nobody any apologies...;)

    Credit to Photographer, Owner
     
  8. anthony myrick
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    Didn’t the Flint roadster have a smothish wheel well?
     
  9. Stogy
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    Fundraising_roadster.jpg

    :rolleyes:...;)

    I know you can't even give'm away...
    I am joking by the way...

    Credit to Photographer, Owner

     
  10. 41rodderz
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    Building a sub structure and attaching filler panel would be an easy task.
     
  11. Stogy
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    :rolleyes:...;)

    Beyond Cool...
    Thanks for the memories fellas...;)

    Kind of Full of Jalopy Journal Soul
    without question...

    Credit to Photographer, Owner
     
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  12. anthony myrick
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    Yep
    Totally plastic/fiberglass

    Sarc
     
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  13. Stogy
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    Your pulling my leg right...o_O...Where's the rest of it...sell it to me...:D
     
  14. I think if the car's real low it can be pulled off, but when they sit high like a traditional 40's or 50's build the sides look like a big billboard. I've seen some 28/29 "A" Roadsters that had the side smoothed back in the day, and while they were neat cars with history, I didn't care for them. Lil Jon Buttera built one his "A" Roadsters and left the front half of the wheel well in the quarter panel, then it faded back into the rear of the quarter, make sense? Here's a link to the car. https://www.flickr.com/photos/fredsredt/3233003514/in/photostream/ It was the 1980 AMBR.
     
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  15. anthony myrick
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    I like the car overall. But the missing wheel well messes up the rear proportions for this one

    The nerf bar rules
     
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  16. bchctybob
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    Hey Stogy, is it me or is that fella on the left waaay ahead of his time hair-wise! lol
     
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  17. Stogy
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    I would proudly own one of those time capsules...and remember most Hotrods and Customs have their money shot angles...
     
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  18. Stogy
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    :D...You know funny I did note him and thought yeah the Bed Head look goes back a lot further than I thought...

    He also reminded me of Malcolm McLaren of Sex Pistols Fame...;)

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    Credit to Photographer's Owner's
     
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  19. anthony myrick
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    Here is a coupe with a modified wheel well
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    Don’t look plastic to me
     
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    Replicas of vintage parts and bodies are produced with varied levels of quality and I suspect many are cast from former Hotrods and Racers with additional changes based on opinions in styling...will it succeed and be favored?...that has probably played out with some perhaps still available...
     
  22. nochop
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    Looks like a pinewood derby car
     
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  23. Mr48chev
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    I've never been a fan of that look but it is one of the things that were popular back when.
    Personally I think having the wheel and tire centered just right in the wheel arch on the body with as close to exact of an arc around the tire as you can get is one of the things that makes for a perfect fenderless hot rod.
     
  24. Stogy
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    Which pic...the Deuce, the Model A?


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    The Model A is Showcased here...
    Colorado Based Racing 1940s
    https://www.modcoupes.com/carc-the-1940-s.html

    Credit to Photographer, Owner
     
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  25. Filling them looks off.
    If the arch doesn’t follow the tire it truly looks like a holy fuck up.
    However moving them isn’t easy and yet alway looks right no matter how far it gets moved up the body to follow the tire
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    It’s just too hard for some folks to take it all the way so they do dumbo stuff instead. Like run a wider rearend to get more room between the tires to drop to body down between the tires with no thought to the wheel arch and make like dumbo.
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    Sorry if I used your car as an example.
     
  26. Stogy
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    First of thanks for correcting Kevin's Link...and heres the pics you posted as they are better enjoyed visible...

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    :rolleyes:...Robert Stack...1938

    Posted by Hamber @gwhite

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/roadsters-with-filled-wheelwells.927050/#post-10452102


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    Posted By Hamber @Stan Back

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/roadsters-with-filled-wheelwells.927050/#post-10452644

     
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  27. Cyclone Kevin
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    Hi Stogy,
    Just saw this post. Here’s the W.E. In those early days of Pioneer Hot Rodding When really “Anything was done”. (Ok, this may be way too many pix for examples)..... 53300C0D-4262-40BA-8086-E9BAF04DE612.jpeg 1F9FA85B-DD90-4C0C-99F1-55025EFD6A99.jpeg 45262C08-6E5C-4645-BA2A-35D9DCBBB2D0.jpeg (This shot below is before the cowl was sectioned and a 40 deluxe dash hammer welded in). A5E6316D-D0A8-400B-9976-2F21069CD0AD.jpeg 0029105E-D450-4745-9FB9-ABCCD21442BB.jpeg That first shot made myself and Fellow PRC member Eric Loe able to readily ID this as the Clem Waske #265b “SCRC Lakes & Roundy Round Racer”.
    This Body Work was quite sneaky and extensive if one puts another 29 Right next to it. Clem was an artist as is his son Doc, so they think out of the box....

    Now I’d seen cars that had hammered wells before but they weren’t en masse. Here’s another 405E31AC-3539-4126-98F2-912440830AFC.jpeg As you can tell, they both very similar. both have rear rolled pans and both of them were done about the same time.(yellow 29 is owned by Richard Loe) 0E0886FA-B376-4BFB-9646-634B45166218.jpeg If you look at “Jake’s NieKramp” the Wheel Wells just kinda disappear from a dead nuts side view.
    I feel very fortunate to have been able look this car over while Jake had it as it was my favorite of all of his cars.... 8ECAC3A8-1748-4216-AF7C-A899370D0E9C.jpeg I mocked this up early in my stewardship, but opted for the Waske version as that’s what is historically correct. D2155467-5AF5-4BC0-A519-01E8F60E8A9E.jpeg 30FA15CD-D2D7-4DCE-85C8-FF8C5893D48C.jpeg A74655BB-26D9-43B8-81CE-DA16EC5729D1.jpeg On the Dye roadster which I was able to ID by lil telltale builders contributions to its very kool look, it almost appears that the wheel wells also go away, but look close as they are indeed there. 6593E778-89BF-4FD9-8B6B-05659A3592D8.jpeg 5C44DD10-7D09-48BC-B1B6-2DDC8ABCA6B6.jpeg
    So I hope that this info helps. ;).
    CK.
     

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  28. Stogy
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    Yupp it does...Priceless...Thanks for a slam dunk Kevin...;)...and THANK You for sharing and coveting Hotrod History...​
     
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  29. anthony myrick
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    I like how this A is done
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    Here is another coupe
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    Low and smooth
     
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  30. Cyclone Kevin
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    Stogy,
    Ya know, there’s times when I wonder why I care so much about it, but then I see this and it snaps me right out of that and then I’m able to add a little bit to a thread. ;).
    Thx again.
     
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