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Hot Rods Filled or Smoothed Wheel Wells on a Fenderless Hot Rod?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by patmanta, May 24, 2019.

  1. patmanta
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    1. MASSACHUSETTS HAMB

    I know I've seen this topic discussed in the "ROADSTERS WITH FILLED WHEELWELLS...?" thread, but I couldn't find a straight up discussion of the practice as a whole, beyond roadsters.

    I'd like to talk about, see pictures of and information on Filled or Smoothed Wheelwells on Fenderless Hot Rods here.
     
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  2. Personally, I never cared for it but that's just one opinion, my reasoning being it appears to make the car look like a cheap fiberglass body, again it's just my opinion. HRP
     
  3. 19Fordy
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    I think HRP pretty much said it all.
    Filled looks like "plastic".
     
  4. patmanta
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    Yes, we know ;) and that is certainly a concern, but does not mean it can't be done "right" on the "right" car.

    If all you've got to say is "I don't like it" without showing why, you're not adding a lot of value to the discussion. Find an example of a car you think looks like a cheap glass body and post it here.
     
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  5. Stogy
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    I think it rocks and is as traditional as apple pie bring them on... @Cyclone Kevin's is one...

    How about this for a reason...cutting down on drag on the dry lakes and of course a look that many Speedsters and larger elegant vehicles had back in the day...;)
     
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  6. patmanta
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    1. MASSACHUSETTS HAMB

    I fixed the tag so maybe @Cyclone Kevin will chime in and post a pic pf his car.

    I cherry-picked a couple posts from the conversation on roadsters that show what I think @HOTRODPRIMER was talking about as well as a couple that look like they were filled for speed:

     
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  7. Excuse me, I didn't mean to pee in the pool but I assumed you were asking a question. HRP
     
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  9. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
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    Although I have been a custom metal guy for over 40 years, I have not had the opportunity to do this particular mod. With that said I love viewing any custom metal modification on a hot rod or custom. It gives me a chance to view someone else's process and maybe learn a new trick or two. Larry
     
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  10. Apology's to the owner and it may have been a extremely popular modification back in the day but I prefer a Model A body to have all the hiccup's it was born with, including the wheel wells.

    This car is most likely a steel body but looks like it could be a cheap knock off.

    In the end we are all different and where some like smooth hot rods and customs others like myself prefer the stock look, there is no right or wrong. HRP

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  11. patmanta
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    I'd be very surprised if that wasn't an old glass body. The lunchbox latches, smooth tail where the subframe would otherwise meet the quarter panel, and what looks like scratches with no sign of rust all lead me to think so. If it's steel, that is A LOT of filling that seems to me would want to crack at least at the tail there.

    I'm not a big fan of it with the higher stance here either.
     
  12. a boner
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    image.png image.png This roadster looks cool!
     
  13. Stogy
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    DSC_0074.JPG

    :rolleyes:...Hybrid...bit Custom bit Hotrod
    and of course filled wells

    Credit to Photographer, Owner
     
  14. The37Kid
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    I'd like to know how someone did it without a huge oil caning problem.

    Bob
     
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  15. LM14
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    Not a fan of it. Body looses its character.
    SPark
     
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  16. lostone
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    On stock or hot rods, I like it, it gives a place for the rear tire to "fit" vs just sticking the tire anywhere look.

    On a custom as above? Anything goes.
     
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  17. G V Gordon
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    While the wheel wells are indeed filled they have left a body line for character. I like this one but the slab sided look of the others is a turn off.
     
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  18. Stogy
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    Like many mods done in the past if keeping the well bead it may have been a filler panel inserted and welded perhaps braced and filled with either lead or bonded. The smoothed ones perhaps hammer welds, lap welds you name it, with lead or bondo or nothing added...

    I'm sure if done by an experienced metalsmith, they would consider and address as needed.
     
  19. If we're talking traditional as in how did the average hot rodder do it back in the day, then, no. As far as customs and Bonnie type cars, probably some were done back in the day but I doubt it was very common.
     
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  20. Ziggster
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    I'm still learning about early Fords etc, and I recently came across this nice example. Would this be considered filled? I'm personally not a fan of fiberglass bodies, but that is just me. Is this steel or fiberglass?
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  21. BamaMav
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    I remember seeing one back in the 80's that had the wheel wells sunk in like tubs, and some enormous tires on back, probably an attempt at a pro street look. Didn't look bad, just a little strange.
     
  22. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
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    Why does every post wanting to see custom metal work or modifications end up being a zillion pages of I DON"T LIKE IT! This site is suppose to be about hot rods and customs right? I wanted to see custom metal work not more drama.:(:( Larry
     
  23. The37Kid
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    Don't yell at me, I'd like to know how it was done with warping the quarters. Bob
     
  24. Tim
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    Well thats probably because he asked for a discussion and to talk about it, not just photos.

    That’s what he got, the people against it just outnumber those who like it. Just like it clearly was back then or you’d have seen it more.

    They probably didn’t warp the quarter buy just filling the revel with 30 pounds of lead if most of the surviving cars from that area tell us anything .
     
  25. Stogy
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    Not at all the modification being discussed here.
     
  26. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
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    Was not yelling at anyone. Just disappointed that these threads always seem to attract more I don't like its than examples of what has been done. Larry
     
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  27. Stogy
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    Interesting you mention this as it could be a streamlining option as I mentioned before which is in fact purpose built which is laughable that Traditional Hotrodders revel in being so negative about true purpose built mods...:D...which is the Mantra of Hotrod...Purpose built made to go fast...everything else next...

    Clever engineering in my books...and not a remotely new mod at that...
     
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  28. anthony myrick
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    Maybe not 100% the mod mentioned here but it should be similar. Could just make the wheel well much shallower and not add the 2 bead rolls
    Butt welded in the center of the bead
    No oil can. Just simple hammer and dolly
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    Any deformation created from a weld can be cured by proper hammer and dolly work along the weld area. It’s very important to restore any damage before welding.
     
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  29. BamaMav
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    Maybe not, but they were smooth, no ribs.
     
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  30. bchctybob
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    It's certainly a matter of taste but it also falls into the Kustom category of "modification for modification's sake". Far too many customs got ugly because someone thought every single panel needed to be modified with little thought of the overall look. Bonneville racer, old drag car, '80s-90s hot rod? - sure. Nice traditional hot rod - nope.
    Don't like that ugly inner fender panel? Just put the fender on it and fill it with tire. There's a reason you don't see it all that often. Just my .02.
     
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