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Technical Fender "smoother" tool, aka "little english wheel." Actually useful?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Brad54, Dec 14, 2015.

  1. Brad54
    Joined: Apr 15, 2004
    Posts: 6,015

    from Atl Ga

    I just picked up a pair of hand-held "fender smoother" mini english wheels.
    One is medium-sized, or a little smaller, the second is much smaller.

    Are these actually useful for anything?
    And by that, I mean does anybody actually use them for fabrication in their shop? The one could have a curved wheel made and be clamped in the vise to fab small panels... in fact, I could see using exactly that to make a gas filler delete panel for '60-'66 Chevy trucks (I don't think there's one available aftermarket), but really, is that a long way to go?

    I guess I'm wondering if they're worth keeping in the already-crowded shop.

  2. indyjps
    Joined: Feb 21, 2007
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  3. Ebbsspeed
    Joined: Nov 11, 2005
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  4. Buddy Palumbo
    Joined: Mar 30, 2008
    Posts: 3,871

    Buddy Palumbo

    Pretty cool tools !

  5. ol'stinky
    Joined: Oct 3, 2010
    Posts: 360

    from New Jersey

    Those things are sweet! I've never used one but it is my understanding that they are for repairs rather than fabrication. My guess is they weren't very good because they didn't catch on. But I bet there are a few guys out there that mastered using them and swore by them.
  6. David Gersic
    Joined: Feb 15, 2015
    Posts: 2,460

    David Gersic
    from DeKalb, IL

    Looks like it'd be hard to use as designed, but could be useful for small parts if held in a bench vice.
  7. Rusty O'Toole
    Joined: Sep 17, 2006
    Posts: 9,608

    Rusty O'Toole

    One of us should try them out. You are closer than we are.
    Barrelnose pickup likes this.
    Joined: Jan 22, 2006
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    I bought a set this summer at an old timers auction, one English wheel style and one was a planishing hammer style. The guy that was bidding against me came over and talked to me later during the sale and said they work really good, he had a '32 ford truck with a dented fender repaired by an old bodyman, after he had hammer and dollied it close he pulled his set out and finished the metal to near perfection right on the truck. I haven't had time to play with them yet to see how well they work.
  9. Ummmm, you and I need to talk Brad :D
  10. aaggie
    Joined: Nov 21, 2009
    Posts: 2,531


    All tools have a use or they wouldn't have been manufactured. That said I think I could grab a hammer and dolly and fix the dent faster than I could figure out how to get the thing up inside of a fender. Newer cars the metal is so thin it is sometimes easier to just replace the fender than chase low spots for hours.
  11. Brad54
    Joined: Apr 15, 2004
    Posts: 6,015

    from Atl Ga

    Yeah, actually they look EXACTLY like those... well, like those would look if they'd been put in the upstairs storage of a Chevy parts dealer and forgotten for 60 years.
    But yeah, those are them!

  12. G-son
    Joined: Dec 19, 2012
    Posts: 872

    from Sweden

    But the only purpose of some tools are to fool people out of their hard earned money. They don't have to actually work to do that. ;)
  13. Matthew Tolbert
    Joined: Dec 28, 2019
    Posts: 1

    Matthew Tolbert
    from Georgia

    Old thread but I’ve been searching for a set of these if anyone knows where I could pick some up
  14. bob b.
    Joined: Aug 30, 2009
    Posts: 170

    bob b.
    from peoria az.

    they work good on Schwinn bike finders

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