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History Feeling Nostalgic about Nostalgia or remembering the Traditional hot rod boom of the 90's

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Robert J. Palmer, Feb 7, 2019.

  1. In hindsight in was a very brief period of time from cool underground to becoming kind of mainstream. Maybe 5 or 6 years.

    I knew it was going off the rails when I saw Paris Hilton and other flavor of the day celebrities wearing the Von Dutch Flying Eyeball.
     
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  2. Wheeliedave
    Joined: Jan 6, 2011
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    Patmanta,
    You have it exactly right !
    Build what you want with the parts you can get and drive it !
    I have a love for early Fords, particularly 1929 Ford Roadsters, 1932 Ford 2 door sedans, 1940 Fords, 1954 Mercury Monterey 2 door hard tops, 1937 Lincoln Zephyr coupes, 1966 Fairlane hard tops and convertibles and have owned at least one of each of those models. Oops, I forgot the 1931 A Tudor I started with that cost $30.00 in 1959. I also just remembered I had a 1938 Ford Pickup for a short while !
    I still have my ‘29 A Roadster which began with a discarded body. We found it in 1968 but I never got it on the road until 1999. I still drive it.
    Some of you might not like it because it does not fit all the parameters, but I don’t care. It has disc brakes now but in 1999 it had 1942 Ford front brakes. They got changed to disc brakes some years later because I wanted better stopping power. I have never regretted the decision to change.
    The car has a partially completed interior (The seats are upholstered). It has a black primer finish, also from 1999, and that may change, someday. It is also traditional in that it is full fendered and has bumpers and a dropped axle up front.
    Build what you want and drive it !



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  3. CAHotRodBoy
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    I find it funny reading a thread about being nostalgic about the late 90's and early 2000's. I guess I'm getting old!

    I understand what the OP is saying. When the whole "rebirth" of traditional cars started I liked the trend. I did find it interesting that so many younger guys got into cars from a period long before they were born. I think most people get nostalgic for the time period when they came of age, late teens to early twenties. I graduated high school in 1974 so that is the time period that I most closely relate to. About ten years past this sites focus but when I see threads here from early 70's rod runs I can't help but smile at the cars. My '34 build is going to be more of a 70's style car and won't fir in here 100% although a lot of the 70's stuff was carry over from an earlier period.

    I do like the earlier stuff too and if I had more money and time I'd probably build a 40's/50's period correct car. I am curious though why the younger guys like the early stuff so much as opposed to 70's style or even later 60's stuff. Or whatever was popular when they were 18. Maybe because by the time the early 2000's rolled around there was no longer any one particular dominant style of car?

    One thing that does bother me is some of these guys get too carried away with it and start picking apart a car because it isn't period correct when they weren't even around back then. Heck, some of their parents weren't even around then!
    Also, the "uniforms" that some of them wear trying to emulate the youth of the 40's and 50's but then rocking chain drive wallets and covered with tats, especially the women. Oh well, it could be worse. They all could be "ricers"! :eek::D
     
  4. Greg Rogers
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    I love the old pics that are on this site. You can tell the age of the pic by lots of things, the style of the car, clothing, houses, etc,etc. But the only thing you can't tell the period of is the pets... Yes, a 1950's Lab looks the same as a 2000's Lab.
     
  5. I am the OP and turned 18 and graduated high school in 2000. My family was oval trackers going back to the late 30s. Everything from track operations, crew members, drivers, and my father built several chassis. However by the time I was old enough to race (16) the expense was too great. Even being able to build a chassis and doing my own engine assembly was far out weighed by buying infinite combinations of shocks, tries and gas every week and that the guys with commercially built chassis tech support where myself and my dad would be on our own. Plus the fact the cars where built by 2 or 3 manufacturers they all looked the same!

    Same goes for the muscle cars or resorted cars in late 90s-early 2000s, everyone wanted a factory over restored cars.
    Period correct modifications on a big block Chevelle were taboo and frowned on!

    I was drawn to period correct hot rod because if you wanted one you had to build it! Plus the parts to build these style car were fairly cheap who in the hell would want a flathead with a 39 Ford transmission and a V8 quick change rear, a Weiand Drag Star intake for a 324 Olds, or a Roto Faze distributor for a 331 Cadillac!

    I don't get carried away picking apart others cars, however just be because I was born yet doesn't mean I don't what parts were available in the era.

    An example if someone want to builds a 40s style hot rod it couldn't have small block Chevy and be period correct the engine would stand out like a sore thumb, now if someone wanted to build a 40s style car that looked like it was up dated in the mid to late 50's put a S.B.C., latter gauges, latter steel wheels.
     
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  6. mike bowling
    Joined: Jan 1, 2013
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    I saw my first hot rod in the late ‘50 s when I was around 10.
    It was a Model A roadster that a kid down the street had in his fathers garage. I used to sneak in and just stare at it until they’d come out at tell me to get the hell out.
    Skip ( the owner) was a few years older than me, a lot bigger, and had a “ flat top” haircut. He scared the crap out of me! But he was friends with my older sister, so I escaped death on many occasions peeking into the garage.
    No tats, no umbrella girls, no fancy paint jobs, used tires, blanket upholstery, just bare bones fun hauled out of the junkyard or given by a neighbor where it had been sitting behind their house.
    Nobody had any money. Shit was drilled and bolted, or gas welded with wire coat hangers you stole from the Dry Cleaners trash.
    Parts you didn’t have would show up eventually- usually by going to the bone yard on Saturday, throwing shit over the back fence, and returning for it Saturday night ( Midnight Auto Supply).
    J. C. Warchowski was the source for “speed equipment”, later to become J.C. Whitney.

    Much simpler times which were financed by paper routes and mowing lawns.

    Photo credit to TWIG, Bud Hinman ( in his 80’s)racing the car he built when he was 17 at TROG in 2019. Car is now owned by Eli English, who brought it back to life, located Bud, and invited him to the race.
    THATS hot rodding, kids!
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  7. wicarnut
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    Nostalgia is related to one's age IMO, in my case, first car, teen years, 60's. I miss alot of things from past years, the young people of today are missing out on so many good things that us Baby Boomers enjoyed, But as always time stands still for no one. The Traditional (Timeless) Hot Rod has stood the test of time, future, who knows as I see few young people getting involved in our great hobby. I've spent my life working hard, played hard, making memories and grateful to be here, still can remember to share AND still enjoying life, that's Nostalgia for me.
     
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  8. 31hotrodguy
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    Elcohaulic,
    I get what you are saying. I bought an off topic used car so that i could retire the black 57 210 from daily driving. The plan was I so I could spend some time fixing the things that really needed attention on the 57.
    In the mean time my OT car weighs 1900lbs, revs to 8000rpm, has a 6spd, and limited slip! Car and Driver says it will do 14.00 in the quarter mile. I bet faster. It even has this new thing called AC which I am still getting use to. Lol In other words it’s a lot of fun for a “rice burner” plus it gives me the opportunity to talk to the younger guys.





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  9. 1oldtimer
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    It really depends on your age, some of us weren't around for the birth or when it first turned mainstream of hot rodding the first go around. I was around the same age as the clubs in the 90's resurgence and nothing to look at but 90's street rods, which to me were horrible (still are). I was into stock cars from the 50's (I also was listening big band since middle school), so the little books and even the Stray Cats were my introduction into a older larger world at the time. I didn't have any older people around me telling me stories of them growing up, I had to find out through movies, music and later asking other people I met that I knew had hot rod stories to tell. It seems like it's died down a lot, but only because it was so intense of a main stream in the early 2000's. That is as close as we (the non Baby Boomers) will ever come to really being there, correct or not is was our revolution. Now I'm the older guard, feels weird.......but with the spotlight having gone off of the "scene" parts around here have gotten cheaper again and I like that.


    I can't even relate to the late 80's when I graduated....at all. I latched on to the "rebirth" because that felt more correct to me. Like I said in an earlier post I barely fit here, but it's the closest to what I am and build.
     
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  10. 31hotrodguy
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    The other night I was eating a late dinner at In & Out when the “tuner” crowd rolled in. Probably about 50 of them. Some newer GM, Mopar, Fords and others imports. Some are legitimate fast cars and some are just loud with bolt on’s. Just Bunch of car guys and gals hanging out eating hamburgers trying to look tough.
    Hmm sounds familiar.......even nostalgic.
    But Just as the older guys bitched and complained over the young guys with the non billet primmered hot rods of the 90’s they old guys bitch and complain about these guys.
    Different scene, same bitching but historically sure sounds the same.
    I Never turn down the opportunity to mentor a younger car guy even if they look different or have different taste.


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  11. I want to preface this-I can respect the workmanship in a style of car I don't care for.

    Having been in high school and worked in a VoTech when the "tuner" movement started in the late 1990s and early 2000. I hated them then and I still hate them!! I can tell you that 99% of the tuner people are not car guys! It is nothing more then the cool fad of today for them.
    Not one of the "tuner" guys I went to school with had any tools then or now nor do they have perforce cars of kind now.

    Working in a VoTech I got a good look under the hood these style cars. Everyone I saw had plastic nose/tail panel half ass bolted on I take that back they were usually Tie-warped (Zip-tied on).
    None of the owners wanted to learn how or what they could do to improve their car.
    I would try to show them how to build a bracket or show to mount something so it wouldn't keep falling off, I was endless being told "It's good enough." "I don't care." "It's just a car." It's just a car?!?!

    On the flip side of that I was working with a kid who was really into the lifted 4 wheel drive truck deal, not my style but I was always willing to help him because was always working on the truck looking to improve it, asking questions and looking for suggestions.

    Same with everyone I have ever known from period correct hot rodding they are just as deep into cars now as they were then.
    Some have moved into other parts of the hobby (I view it as way of life) I have gotten back into oval track racing with period correct stock cars (modern safety) and I have never once said "It's just a car."
     
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  12. 31hotrodguy
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    Understood, I have seen this very real side of this scene as well.


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  13. AC Chapman
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    Don't you go bad mouth'n ZZ top. Boyd Coddington is to blame for most of that stuff. But I think he redeemed himself with Caddzilla
     
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