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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by fenderless, Nov 16, 2010.

  1. fenderless
    Joined: Mar 31, 2006
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    fenderless
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    from Norway

    Hi.

    I have finally getting the right parts together!?
    I have gotten to be very patient while waiting for all the parts needed.
    Crower finally got my lifters ready, and i will get them next weekend,
    almost xmas:)!

    I have had alot of help from fellow HAMB`ers, espesially Bored&stroked,
    thanks Dale!

    For now, the Flathead is like this:

    1988 French Flathead
    Ported an reworked aprox like your first in this tread+some of my own ideas.
    New home made HQ. mains with girdle (Baron style)
    Moldex crank, 4 1/8 stroke.
    Crower custom billet rods.
    Kustom Ross pistons, reinforced for more load/pressure. Coated.
    Total Seal gapless rings.
    Manley Hi flow ss. valves. 1.6 inn. 1.56 ex. Will be undercut.
    Isky 185G springs, with Titanium retainers.
    Turned down stock valve guides
    And the Crower roller
    Reworked Offy .400 heads
    Home made blower inntake, from a Offy quad.
    A GMC 4-71 blower, pullys for 7% / 18% / 25% / 38% overdrive
    Hilborn 2 port fuel injection. for Methanol.
    4 th exhaused port out of the inntake.
    Vertex Magneto to fire this thing up:D!?

    Manually shifted C4 with transbrake.

    4.10 rear end ratio.

    Have the Hurst 10" slicks now, but will order a set of M&H 12.00x16",
    for the 11x16 American Mags.
     

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  2. Sixcarb
    Joined: Mar 5, 2004
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    Sixcarb
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    from North NJ

    That sure is a good looking crank, thats one piece on my build that I hope I don't end up regretting since I went with a scat crank, what kind of specs are on the cam? the crower roller I'm using is a .460 lift with a 280 duration and 110 lobe seperation, I'm wondering what your lobe seperation is and was it ground for the blower in mind? Good luck with it sounds like it should be a screamer.
     
  3. deucegasser
    Joined: Jul 16, 2006
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    Any more pics,Fenderless? Chassis? Photoshop? C'mon, give it up!!!!!
     
  4. fenderless
    Joined: Mar 31, 2006
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    fenderless
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    from Norway

    Sixcarb.

    Here are some specs. on the cam.
    0.458 lift, 273 degree duration, 112 degree lope sep.
    If you can, send me your tag, and i can send mine:)!

    I have just some poor pictures at the moment, rail is painted, but body is not, yet:)!

    Sidewinder Racing / Grinders
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    Taildragger&fenderless
     

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  5. Looking fantastic! I'm going to pop for a Moldex crank for one of my 'special' projects - looks like a nice piece. Given all the work and $$$ that go into these things, it is nice to have as strong of a lower end as possible.

    Good luck and keep us posted! Can't wait to hear the 'initial fire' sound/video :D

    Dale
     
  6. Lookin nasty - damn that roller has some serious lookin lobes. Then again, you HAVE been talkin to Dale -that kinda explains that !!

    More progress pix...pls !!

    I was wondering what kinda coin are we lookin at for a custom Moldex crank and what options can they come with?

    Rat
     
  7. hotrodmatt
    Joined: Mar 11, 2006
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    Watching this one with interest...
     
  8. FrozenMerc
    Joined: Sep 4, 2009
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    Cool project Fenderless. Here is some inspiration for you. I snapped a couple of pics of this FED running at Brainerd this summer. He was running consistent 7's. The motor is setup for both nitro and methanol.

    He was running an original block filled with aluminum, and then the 4th exhaust pipe was cut out of the top. The owner claimed the top side exhaust pipe was good for a couple of tenths as it allowed for much better flow, but required a very custom intake.

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    Good Luck and keep up the good work.
     
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  9. lawman
    Joined: Sep 19, 2006
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    Very very nice Tom (Tired Old Man)
     
  10. fenderless
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    fenderless
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    from Norway

    Thanks guys:)

    I will keep you uppdatet.

    I really dream about fiering this thing up:)
    The first yellow edition, sounded healthy, but did not pull hard enought.

    The Slider is really something to stretch for, but that thing has totally hommade heads, bigger volume and bigger valves.
    The Martin & Rea dragster is maybe something to aim for, but i would be very happy to get in the low 9`s.

    Rechromed front is ready in the end of the week:)

    Sidewinder
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    Taildragger&fenderless
     
  11. Neat project would like to see more pics if you have them..........
    sure looks killer!!!!...................
     
  12. fenderless
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    fenderless
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    from Norway

    Here are the last picture of the frame.
    Painted the frame black, then to find out that i needed a new bigger tank.
    Also need to make a new oil catchtank.

    The body is almost ready to be painted:)

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    Taildragger&fenderless
     

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  13. dragrcr50
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    76 yr old man in the tulsa okla area (whitey) runs a flat head rail injected on a bit of nitro, , has solid heads on top of the heads for like a girldle i suspect that he pulls after each round to cool it, runs in the mid 7.s 1/4 mile yes 7's we always marvel at him and he has been racing that thing for longer than i can remember and im 62 myself.. they can scream..
     
  14. fenderless
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    fenderless
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    from Norway

    I should have known that guy! I was in Tulsa in october this year:eek:!
    But i will be back soon, have famely in NW Arkansas and frieds in Tulsa.
    Whent to Grand Prix and met Joe, very nice people:)

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    Taildragger&fenderless
     
  15. Like that tail section it sure looks a lot like mine do you know any history on it?
     
  16. fenderless
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    fenderless
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    from Norway

    Here are some of the history that i have found. not mutch!

    The rail was bought on a swapmeet in MN ca 1988.
    It was restored and put together by Don Groff.
    He ran it withe BB mopar engine, then took it apart painted it yellow.
    He did a great job, putting a injected Hemi in the rail. very nice:)!
    It did not run with this engine, so it was sold without engine and tranny.
    (the tranny was later put in the restored Hawaian funny)
    I think the engine is in his current dual engine dragster.

    After he sold it, new owner painted it purple and put in the flathead.
    I bought it from a museum in Florida. Engine was OK, but i don`t think it had been run mutch, so we ended up putting the blower/Hilborn on it.
    Painted it yellow again.

    Her are some name that has been linked to it, Ray Hall, Connie Swingle, TC Lemmon, Art The Dart.....
    I really do not know this for a fact.
    But i like it:)!?

    The body is from Kellison, it has Borrani 19" front runners...

    If anyone have any stories on the car, or could help finding out more about it.. I really would be happy:D!


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    Taildragger&fenderless
     
  17. MBog
    Joined: May 2, 2006
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    Very cool, can we see some close ups of that 4th pipe and how it works??
     
  18. Sweet! Too bad you are so far away, I know Carl is liking this one.
     
  19. fenderless
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    fenderless
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    from Norway

    More pics.

    When Don had it, NICE:)
    It was called "Mittys past gas"
    When i got it, new name, "Roadkill Express"
     

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  20. bobw
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    Here's a pic of the GSTA twin engine dragster that Don Groff restored. He is a master fabricator. When I was trying to find out if Walt Niesen owned your dragster, it never occurred to me that Don had once owned it. Glad you found out so much history.
    Don is standing behind the engines, wearing the red cap.
     
  21. fenderless
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    fenderless
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    from Norway

    Thanks for posting pictures of the freight-train:)

    Some more information that i got:
    "Ray Hall purchased this dragster in the late 60's and sold it in the late 70's to a man named Al Eckard who updated the cage", " Ray Hall ran the car in the southeast divison under the name of Climax. He once had a 380 engine which National Dragster referred to as the "snub nose 38 dragster".<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    Really don`t know, since ny dragster is longer. Don said it was longer, and he shortend it

    The guy who sold it to me, claimed it was published on the web under;
    www.ancientdragracing.com and www.nastalgicdragracing.com ?
    Anybody know if any of these adresses?

    Br
    Kjell

     
  22. Fenderless, would love to see any more photo's with the flattie if you have them, not into valve covers.............Carl
    oh and thanx for the history, I have none on mine.............
     
  23. resqd37Zep
    Joined: Aug 28, 2006
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    Thats going to be one very cool rail. I have a guy in my area named Flathead Jack. He runs an f e d with 2 inline Hilborn injected flatties on nitro. That thing hauls hiney.
     
  24. fenderless
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    fenderless
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    from Norway

    Thanks! I will post more pictures soon.
    We just had a build meeting, whent through the engine and chassis.
    My cheif mech. got a long list with to-do things:D!

    A question, has anybody used locking nuts on the adjusting bolts on the roller lifters? Found out that my set of French hollow lifters had bolts that fitted the
    new Crower lifters, so thhis might be sorted out!!??.

    Also if anybody has used copper as intake gasket?
    All replacement intake gaskets are to small, as i have made the ports bigger.

    Br
    Kjell

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    Taildragger&fenderless
     
  25. FrozenMerc
    Joined: Sep 4, 2009
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    Copper works really well. Most drag cars ran it back in the day. Rick Schnell runs copper on the Slider (and can still push it out the sides).

    Keep up the good work.
     
  26. Slick Willy
    Joined: Aug 3, 2008
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    This one is an oldy from New England and sounds sooo mean!! I tried to use the video on my cell phone but it didnt work! Good luck on your project!

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  27. fenderless
    Joined: Mar 31, 2006
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    fenderless
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    from Norway

    Thanks guys:)
    I will then go for copper.
    Last evening i got some good working hours, did final match-porting and drilled the slots for the rollerlifters. Also found out that i had the adjustingbolts for the rollerlifters, (Crower don`t supply them when ordering a set). So now it`s just to pack it together, and send it to the
    machine-shop:)
    Her are some pictures of it, nothing new, just had to try to copy what everybody has done before me. I have just added some small stuff of my own, kept a litle more materiell here and there, just to be safe, as we are going for alot of pressure:).
    Carl, look under the valvecovers....:D

    Sidewinder

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    Taildragger&fenderless
     

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  28. good looking job Fenderless, looks like you spent a lot of time on the block.......
     
  29. This is likely a noob question but...

    Why is it that on a lot of FED's does the front right wheel have a fairing (or disk...whatever you call it)? Is this for some aerodynamic advantage?
     
  30. fenderless
    Joined: Mar 31, 2006
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    fenderless
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    from Norway

    Got some things solved & done on the chassis today. Also found some parts that whent missing in the shop:):)!

    The disk is for breaking the stage light right on the xmas tree, oh dis i say xmas?:D

    More pictures here, since i have a small battery under the seat, i had to mount a killswitch, look ok as long as i hide it a litle.

    Last picture is of a really good helper when it comes to drilling & grinding, old Wynn`s cutting oil;)

    Sidewinder

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    Taildragger&fenderless
     

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