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Technical ***February 2019 Banger Meet - Cupid Flies 4 Cylinders***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
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    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
    February 14 - treat your significant other
    March 8th and 9th T.R.O.G. Santa Barbara Drags
    April 27 FAST Nor-Cal Spring Hill Climb
    Auburn, CA
    May 11 49th Annual Antique Nationals
    Fontana, CA
    May 31 - June 2
    Hot Rod Dirt Drags
    Movie Manor
    Monte Vista, Colorado
    June 19-22 Speedsters Trials & Reunion
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    June 29th F.A.S.T. Time Trials at the Santa Margarita Ranch
    9 miles North of San Luis Obispo, off Highway 101
    October 4th, 5th and 6th T.R.O.G. Wildwood, NJ

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:


    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $31.00 for color, $24.00 for B/W (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    email: jimb4e4@gmail.com
    phone: 951-695-7313.


    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498


    Banger basics. another info link list:
    http://www.fordgarage.com/


    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055


    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/


    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html


    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461


    Helpful Model A tools and tips:
    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html


    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109


    Elrod's stuck head tech:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487


    Model A generator to alternator conversion:
    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html


    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173


    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465


    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    New Banger Block in the Works
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/


    Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
    http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm
     
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    Got the rear fenders on while I save up for a 12v kit. Installing this B Distributor has me tearing my hair out, so I’m doing myself a favor! I’ll be turning 21 on the 12th!


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  3. johnneilson
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    May is right around the corner.................crap
     
  4. denis4x4
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    Downloaded my Speedster Reunion application and waiting to hear when my Zipper engine will be ready at Bert’s Model A in Denver
     
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  5. As it's late night here, my mind is wandering.

    An hour ago my friend was over helping me with the wiring.
    When connecting the black probe on the multimeter to the ignition coil, and the red to the chassis, we got 6 volts. When we switched, and had the red on the coil, and black on the chassis, we had -6 volts. I'm not sure which would be the correct way to have it wired, as I have bypassed the ammeter and key temporarily.

    How would I correctly check the points on a B Distributor? Not used to these things.. obviously
     
  6. Checking in
    That’s funny, right there! And poetic too.



    Keep ‘em kruzin!

    Dannerr
     
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  7. johnneilson
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    Had a block in the shop once, owner was real proud if it, told me it is fine, has been magnafluxed.
    When I showed him the cracks I had to explain that a good block will PASS the magnaflux test.
    Added another lump into the "magnafluxed" block pile out back of the shop.
    J
     
  8. johnneilson
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    RTR,
    stock Model A is a positive ground system, check the battery, which post is on the ground strap.
    J
     
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  9. "It all good, has lots of lines in the magnaflux test!" Ha ha, this made me laugh out loud in the office - thank god, I'm last man here (clock reads 16:53 in Denmark).
    Thanks, John, a good way to start the weekend! :-D
     
  10. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
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    The last B motor I built took me 4 blocks to find one that could be repaired.

    .
     
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  11. Positive is on the ground strap.


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  12. johnneilson
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    and I am told that I am too selective...........
    I look all the time at blocks, very seldom does one go home with me, even less leave here.
    J
     
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  13. That's why I rarely go to "Swap Meets" of car parts anymore! Most of the stuff are things these guys have picked out a scrap (or should I say: CRAP) heaps! Some think that they have stuff with "Historical" value! Oh well, I guess I'm just too old!
     
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  14. winduptoy
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    I'm not even going to go into a recent B block purchase that was skimmed over with JB Weld and gloss paint. A fresh build with inserts from an 'automotive restoration machine shop'....

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  15. Crazydaddyo
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    Your questions are of a fundamental nature and of general knowledge. Most people with average automotive experience know the answers to the questions you are asking. I personally don't like to answer them because I think it is a waste of time. But you are young and maybe a little wet.

    Here are some pictures of one of my cars with a B distributor. See if you can figure it out from here.

    20190201_155830.jpeg 20190201_155934.jpeg 20190201_160000.jpeg

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  16. Dustyp489
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    Just checking in. Be glad when the snow melts
     
  17. MJW
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    1. PA. NJ. local HAMBERS group

    Stock Model A wiring diagram showing positive ground.
     

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  18. railcarmover
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    fruit of todays labor
     
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  19. JT1930
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    Does anyone have a banger head for sale?

    Ex. Aluminum or iron Winfield/Thomas/etc.

    Thanks.
     
  20. Binger
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    Checking in for the month.


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  21. Jiminy
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    Binger - thanks for the heads up on the dirt drags - added to the first page.
     
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  22. railcarmover
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    I got this head off the hustle,Id be pissed if I paid full price for it..casting quality and mold quality is poor,cleanup in the combustion chamber is non existent..damn shame
     
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  23. johnneilson
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    Honestly, I wouldn't complain about the "lack of quality" this one looks pretty good compared to some.
    You could do some work in there but the gains would be negligible.
    Check it for flat and run it, whatever you do, do not try to deck it to raise the compression. Run it with a single gasket, no more than 55# torque.
    J
     
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  24. denis4x4
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    Just talked to Dan at Bert's Model A regarding my engine. Need to check the lift on the cam and decide if the Crower regrind is ok or switch over to a Bill Sipe cam. Other than that, it's in excellent shape for a 35 year old build.
     
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  25. railcarmover
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    Thanks John,Im just knocking off the high spots..
     
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  26. hardtimesainit
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    If that pictured is the worst you have and/or can show, that is nothing to worry about.
    Easy to clean that up, which you WILL want to do as leaving such trash in combustion area may cause 'hot spot' pre-ignition.
    Nice looking head otherwise ?
    I have an aluminum Winfield crowfoot nos, from about '06. It is 6:1 and I think that the one that you show chamber of is also 6:1 .
     
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  27. railcarmover
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    railcarmover

    Yes its 6 to 1..got most of the trash buffed out with a scotchbrite pad on a die grinder,gonna borrow the wifes dremel to clean up the sides..bead blasting off the ford green,probably shoot it yellow,Hyster yellow close to winfield yellow...and free..
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  28. burl
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    from Minnesota

    checking in for February making throw out bearing stuff m40.jpg
     
  29. railcarmover
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    Fruit of today's labor
     
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  30. Binger
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    Went to the swap meet in Denver today. Found a good price on this intake and carb. Thinking about running it on my stock roadster. Anybody have any thoughts on this set up?


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