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  1. ambrosio
    Joined: Sep 8, 2010
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    Hello all!
    I am fortunate enough to be restoring a few lightweights and am in search of photos and/or info on them. Any responses would be appreciated. I am restoring them to as accurate as can be, to when they were on the strip back in the day. The cars are;
    1. The 62 galaxie raced/owned by jim price
    2. The t-bolt from vels ford
    3. The 63 galaxie raced by burl Hawkins
    4. The 63 ply savoy, that had Alcoa presents, down the side
    5. 64 galaxie, with coble and bolland, down the side
    Once again, any info is extremely appreciated
    Dan
     

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  2. spiertb
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    Dan; Do you have any pics or info that you would share with us Thunderbolt lovers? Thanks. Sylvanus
     
  3. ambrosio
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    Sylvanus, I'll try to attach some photos, I'm new here and it took me forever just to figure out how to respond, so please bare with me. The owners of this t-bolt, also have the Webster ford car and have the original humpin Henry t-bolt that is also on the list to build for them. Although under a cover, I took a couple pictures of humpin Henry, where at least its doors are visable. Also attached, I hope, are pictures the owners sent me of the vels ford car as it was pulled from a reverb back in the 70's
     

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  4. ambrosio
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    Here is the car as raced by vels ford;
     

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  5. uncle buck
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    Very cool! A whole lot of history there
     
  6. ambrosio
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    Don McCain owned the car;
    It seems as though the cars authenticity is questioned in thunderbolt circles as being the original body, but I'm going off of what I've been told. some say it was crushed, but the pictures, original vin plate and parts have me sure confused on it. Thank you
     

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  7. ambrosio
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    By the way, a few of the original photos I found on this awesome forum while researching
     
  8. Marty Strode
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    Dan, Jim Price raced (2) different cars in '62, are you restoring the "Brick Red" or brown one, or the white one. I had 1 picture of the white one (wasn't that a lightweight), I gave it to Tom Willford. I thought he passed it on to the owner at that time. It was a color shot, taken at McMinnville, on the return road. Jim won the biggest S/S race I ever saw in '62, (21 cars) 406 & 390 Fords, 409 Chevys, 421 Pontiacs, 413 Plymouths and Dodges. The final was Jim's brown Galaxie, and Potter Bros '61 Starliner. Good luck in your search.
     
  9. ambrosio
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    Marty, this car is white, all that I'm working on right now are lightweights. I know the owner has a photo of it, but I have yet to get it. If you could forward that to me, I'd greatly appreciate it. Hopefully it's a different picture, so I'll have more than one to go off of when I recreate the "graphics" I know the 406 was swapped out early on for a 427 cammer, which it still has in it. The original 406, fortunately came with the car, which we are restoring as well. Here it is today; Thank you
     

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  10. Marty Strode
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    Dan, That was years ago, and I didn't have a scanner and didn't realize the significance of that car. I don't have a copy of the picture, sorry. In your search, I have lately been wondering about another 62 two door sedan, that raced around here. It was pink , ran A/MP in about 1964. The guy's name was, Whitey Thames, I often wondered if that was Jim's white car.
     
  11. dang.......wonder if the Alcoa car was a tip to "ALL" the aluminum stuff the car's were running...?
     
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  12. ambrosio
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    I definitely will keep that info and let you know if I run across it
     
  13. ambrosio
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    Amazing how the mopars used all aluminum and ford went the fiberglass way! That savoy has history racing out of New York if anyone has more pictures? This picture, literally could have been taken 60 years ago, but on a race track! Crazy! Thank you
     

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  14. rgfloor
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    Could you explain the term "reverb"? Obviously the car took a pretty good hit. Just curious.
     
  15. ambrosio
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    Oops, I better check this "spelling correcting" as I go. It should have said revine, sorry
     
  16. ambrosio
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    Still did it, RAVINE
     
  17. alphabet soup
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    That is one crazy set of headers on that '63 Plymouth.
     
  18. ambrosio
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    Ya, short of those, it will be redone identical
     
  19. Marty Strode
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    This is Bob Tindle's lightweight 63, would these headers be factory ? Bob Tindle 63 Ply.jpg
     
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  21. ambrosio
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    all the Mopar lightweights left the factory with the exhaust going out the back and "cutouts" factory installed. I have a picture if you like? Those on the car were really popular to put on though
     
  22. ambrosio
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  24. Sorry, I can't add any technical details, but I can tell you that Burl Hawkins was a legend in his own time at the Tulsa drag strip in the early 60's. He was hard to beat. That was when the drag strip was in northwest Tulsa, on North Cincinnati Ave, I think. It was an old airport.
     
  25. ambrosio
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    Love those photos, I see the white car was driven by jim price, I've found a couple pictures of burl Hawkins driving the t bolt, I just can't find him in the galaxie. I just spoke with bill doenges that sponsored Hawkins in those cars
     
  26. These 2 belong to a local Hamber and they are the real deal. HRP 12219350_10205240501310974_6728090586826850982_n.jpg

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  27. Marty Strode
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    We were fortunate to have 2 T-bolts in our area. Too bad Jim's was converted to "Match Race" form. Jim Price Thunderbolt.jpg Lil Pete(Madras2).jpg Lil Pete (madras1).jpg
     
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  28. Gotgas
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    This ad from 1958 shows that Chrysler certainly had a relationship with Alcoa. I would assume they used aluminum parts for their lightweight program because of that relationship.

     
  29. ambrosio
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    Neat ad, I was told that "Alcoa presents" was a TV series from the 60's that was like the twilight zone, I don't know which would have sponsored this car. That ad makes sense though, thanks
     
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  30. Jalopy Joker
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    Cool real race cars - but, isn't there threads on Super Stocks, Thunderbolts, etc here already?
     

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