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"Factory" Fuel Injected 409

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 214Gearjammer, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. 214Gearjammer
    Joined: Jan 22, 2009
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    214Gearjammer
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    from Dallas, TX

    Hi Folks,
    This neat 62 Bubbletop at the Dallas Autorama has a fuel injection setup like no other. The owner has no Documentation From GM or Borg Warner but it is really cool and original looking. I should have taken a pic of the info/history board beside the car.... I apologize for posting the thumbnails--I have never figured out how to post pix at full size. Check out the timing cover, if you can see it..this unit is cam driven! Not an "authentic" factory feature but it was sure drawing a crowd on set-up nite!
     

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  2. 214Gearjammer
    Joined: Jan 22, 2009
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    214Gearjammer
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    from Dallas, TX

    ...BTT...

    Anyone ever even heard of a system like this?? ...much less seen it!??!
     
  3. ACACG
    Joined: Mar 24, 2011
    Posts: 26

    ACACG
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    from TX

    Its actually a Chevy project designed with Borg Warner, Marvel Schebler and Rochester for 409's. It would have probably been n option for the 409 in the early 60's but the project was scraped due to other new engines coming out at the time, such as Mystery motor and 396ci. This particular system was on a GM truck that belonged to employee at the time.
     
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  4. SasaMP
    Joined: Feb 22, 2012
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    SasaMP
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    from Dallas, TX

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  5. Ghost28
    Joined: Nov 23, 2008
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    That sounded great. I just wish they would have throttled it up at least once.
     
  6. jcmarz
    Joined: Jan 10, 2010
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    jcmarz
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    from Chino, Ca

    She's real fine that 4 oh 9
     
  7. one day I'll get some pics posted of my first "hot" car - an ex 409 1964 SS that I sold back about 1979....my old buddy built a few '09's and we street raced his 62 around Dallas till about 2001....his old lady got it....sad story there...
     
  8. cracker head
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    cracker head
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    We talked to the "handler" about the car. I totally dig the car and the experimentation of the big three in their hayday.
     
  9. SasaMP
    Joined: Feb 22, 2012
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    SasaMP
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    from Dallas, TX

  10. SasaMP
    Joined: Feb 22, 2012
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    SasaMP
    Member
    from Dallas, TX

    Here is some info on the FI 409

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  11. ACACG
    Joined: Mar 24, 2011
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    ACACG
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    from TX

    Thanks SASA
     
  12. ACACG
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    ACACG
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    from TX

  13. ACACG
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    ACACG
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    from TX

  14. belair
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    belair
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    Awesome- the saddest words are what might have been.
     
  15. pwschuh
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    pwschuh
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    Love that idle!
     
  16. mart3406
    Joined: May 31, 2009
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    mart3406
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    from Canada

    One thing that doesn't seem to make a
    lot of sense. One of the reasons that
    Chevrolet and Borg-Warner *supposedly*
    stopped development and scrapped this
    project was because the 409 was near
    the end of it's production run and was
    very soon. to be replaced by the new
    396/427 "Mark iV" engine. It would
    seem to me, that other than casting up
    a new, dedicated FI intake manifold,
    that all of the technology and most of
    the hardware could have been very easily
    and quickly adapted to work on the new,
    soon-to-be released. 'Mark IV' engine.
    My guess is that real reason this project
    wasn't pursued and developed further -
    and also, not eventually adapted to the
    new 396-427, as well - was simply, cost.
    'Back in day', carbs were cheap for the
    OEMs - the 'Big-4' were probably paying
    something on the order of 7 or 8 dollars
    apiece - and maybe even much less - for
    4-bbl carburetors - and in the end, the
    'bean-counters' at GM were probably the
    ones responsible for killing this project.
    It's a real shame too, because, just like
    an arms race between countries., if Chevy
    had put this into production, Ford and
    Chrysler and the other GM divisions as
    well, would have followed suit with their
    own fuel injection systems too. Who
    knows were that might have led and
    what we might have been driving??!!

    Mart3406
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  17. Truckedup
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    Truckedup
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    You mean like the new engines with 500 hp that idle smooth with the AC on and get 20 MPG? :D
     
  18. tedster
    Joined: Mar 20, 2005
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    tedster
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    Cool, thanks for posting.
     
  19. ChassisResearchKid
    Joined: Feb 18, 2006
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    ChassisResearchKid
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    from Michigan

    I know a guy that has one of these setups, here in Michigan. NO, he'll never do anything with it.
     
  20. hemifarris
    Joined: Sep 30, 2005
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    hemifarris
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    Excellent post. Thanks...........
     
  21. Gasr57
    Joined: Sep 3, 2007
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    Gasr57
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    from Ohio

    Cool post. I dig that odd ball stuff.
     

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