Ok i got a complete 1960 ford f100 axle with juice brakes can i use is brakes on my 1939 ford. Thankz
Speedway sells the bearing kit, part number 91631934. "Kit allows you to install 1953-1956 Ford F-100 11" x 2" drum brakes on your 1937-1948 Ford car spindles. Kit includes new bearings and seals to allow conversion. You must supply 1953-1956 F-100 front backing plates, hubs and 1953-1966 brake drums. Minor grinding required on 1937-1941 spindles. " Here's the link... http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/538...-Ford-Car-Spindle-Kit.html?itemNo=f100 brakes Rich
I'd like to know about this as well. I think the brake drums and shoes are the same for the later F-100s - to about 1964. Are there differences in the hubs and backing plates? The 53-56 stuff is getting hard to find.
The brake drums are the same 1953 to 1966 ... as is the brake shoes ... but the hubs and backing plates from 57 up do not directly bolt on to the 37 to 48 Ford spindles. I always use 1965 Ford F-100 shoes, brake spring kits and drums ... when buying at NAPA ... the 65 and 66 F-100 has self adjusting brake hardware and I put it on my 56 F-100 conversion on my early Ford spindles. But you need to trim a slot in the grease retainer ( shown above ) so the self adjuster cable will clear it ... or discard the grease retainer.
Good article by ...um...Deuce Roadster with the relavent P/N's here in the tech forum: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5877
I've just been stripping some '62-ish assemblies to use on my '55/'56 spindles. The drums swap, as said above, but the spindles and hubs are different - the spindle is a bigger diameter at the base so the hub bearing is too loose for the '55/'56 spindle. The hub itself seems to be smaller diameter, despite the larger diameter bearing, so it looks like you can't just swap bearings to suit the later hub. Bottom line, Ed, is that you can't just swap your brake assemblies onto the '39 spindle.
I've been looking into that as well. So far, I've learned they're very similar, yet different hubs. I'd like to know if the bearings are the same, I know drums differ.
'48-'56 use the same bearings. '57 up use different bearings, hubs, and backing plates and won't adapt to early Ford spindles as far as I have seen.
I purchased one of the speedway bearing kits for the f100 brakes I am going to use on my 46 spindles. But it looks like the race is part of the hub and seal won't fit in.
Does that speedway bearing kit work on the F1 hubs or only on the later 53+ F100 hubs. Ive had the early hubs for a while but I might have to trade them for later hubs? On '40 spindles for a model A.
I am looking into doing this, I am wondering if anyone has done this swap on all four corners or if this is only a front swap. Why not do all four?
i've done the swap on the front `37-`48 spindles many times. what rear end are you thinking? a ford banjo?
I have F-100 brakes on the front of my avatar - 53 backing plates and hubs, 66 drums. Front/outer bearing is the same as the early Ford, rear/inner bearing and seal is as per Speedway. I have not installed the self adjusters but I need to - life would be alot simpler with them. I would also not use the 66 drums when doing it again - they do not set "in" all the way and lap over the back of the backing plate. This condition "can" subject my b-shoes to get more water than they should in rainy weather but I have had no problems braking in the wet. I think the drums of choice (make that a "better choice") are 53-64 (?) but hopefully others will chime in on this. As for my roadster, stopping power is great and I will use this front braking system for my 32 5-window w/Buick power when that build comes up.
Since the '48-'56 bearings are the same, is it a safe bet that the hubs are also the same from '48 up F-1 thru '56 F-100?
Yes, I am concidering the stock '40 Ford rear end. Stock rear brakes/setup. The article in the link does not address the rear brakes, unless I missed that part..... thanks to all who have replied.
While they use the same bearings, the F-1 and F-100 hubs and drums have different offsets. The backing plates themselves are the same and will work with either an F-1 hub and drum or an F-100 hub and drum. Here are a couple of pictures to illustrate what I described.
Now that I look at pic #3 a little closer, details become pretty much self-evident...pretty slick! DD
Got started on fitting the brakes; but got busy with some other stuff and have not finished the details. F-1/F-100 front backing plate. '40 rear inside mount rear hub, drum register turned to fit an F-1 front drum and outside diameter turned down to match F-1 hub outside diameter. Will use F-1 front drum, the late model F150/Bronco drum will also fit; but may have to deepen the groove slightly. Will use the studs made to go with the aftermarket '40 drums, may have to shim them so they don't stick out too far through the thinner drums. If they don't work out, may just ream the holes and use some Dorman studs. Plan to use F-1/F-100 rear wheel cylinders and 1-3/4" wide shoes, 2" shoes fit also. Will trim and weld in the small section for the park brake cable trimmed from an old rear plate. Could also weld in replacement tube for a Ford Lockheed brake and use the stock '40 style brake cable; but the springs are so crappy on the reprop cables and cause so much trouble. The park brake lever and link from about any '50-'60s 11" Bendix brake fit and will work. Need to get back and finish this sometime.
Thanks for clearing that up, Ill just need to pick up a pair of F-1 drums to match my "in stock" F-1 hubs.
Old thread I know, but did this work Richie? I have an ‘issue’ with my 40 rear and need thinner drums than stick 40 which are 3 1/2 overall, I’m assuming f1 drums are about2 given they have a flat wheel mount face., which would move my wheels in a good inch or so, allowing me to tuck them under the fenders. any help would be appreciated.
F-1/F-100 brakes will fit Model A spindles. Use a regular juice brake adapter kit (bearing spacer and centering ring) and notch (or redrill) the mount holes.
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