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ever strech the meaning of STOCK in a race?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by boo, May 26, 2013.

  1. boo
    Joined: Jul 6, 2005
    Posts: 557

    from stuart,fl.

    had my old raged 29 phaeton at a hill climb. a friend talked me into intering it, eng looked stock, i intered in stock class even passed teck inspection. iguess the model b carb& intake vere ok, what was hid, snyder hi com head, B cam ,1-1/2'' stnless int valves,.125 ovr bore, balanced crank, balanced eng & flywheel, incert berings, 25 pounds off fly wheel, V-8 clutch & pre. plate, 6:00 16 wheels. won my class quite a bit, another guy w/29 phaeton came over and said, how the hell did you beat me, i know i' am cheating. mum's the word.....
  2. shinysideup
    Joined: Sep 1, 2008
    Posts: 1,627

    from ruskin, fl

    Congrats on being a proud cheater. I think you are a loser,not a winner at all.
  3. junk yard kid
    Joined: Nov 11, 2007
    Posts: 2,719

    junk yard kid

    the real crime here is no pics.
  4. Pete1
    Joined: Aug 23, 2004
    Posts: 1,903

    from Wa.

    Cheaters are the lowest form of life.

  5. seb fontana
    Joined: Sep 1, 2005
    Posts: 6,817

    seb fontana
    from ct

    There are hills in FL?
  6. Yep. You beat a bunch of guys playing fair, congrats.:cool:
  7. newrider3
    Joined: Aug 19, 2010
    Posts: 62


    If this were a thread about Smokey Yunick and his racing exploits and stories about him stretching the rules, all of you would be grovelling. :rolleyes:
  8. boo
    Joined: Jul 6, 2005
    Posts: 557

    from stuart,fl.

    streaching the rules in racing has always happened, NASCAR is best example, smoky unick was the champ, thats why they tear down the winners.
  9. Beating a guy who played by the rules when you didnt, is hardly a win.

    The only thing you beat was the tech inspection, PERIOD.
  10. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 27,807


    Sounds like you have a future in politics. Bob
  11. Don's Hot Rods
    Joined: Oct 7, 2005
    Posts: 8,319

    Don's Hot Rods
    from florida

    Anyone who has raced has "pushed the limits of legality" at one time or another. :p You guys are right about Smokey, he was the best at gaining a bit of advantage over his competition.

  12. Boones
    Joined: Mar 4, 2001
    Posts: 9,662

    from Kent, Wa
    1. Northwest HAMBers

    Did you really win? In the long run.

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  13. 63comet
    Joined: Jan 31, 2006
    Posts: 508


    You fucked up and announced it on a public forum! Now your competition knows!
  14. volvobrynk
    Joined: Jan 30, 2011
    Posts: 3,587

    from Denmark


    Smokey did a lot of rule bending, but not engine (as much as everything else B-)).

    If you did it between you and the guy you race with, if everybody tweeks it's only self defense. If you are the only one, come clean, bump to another class and win proudly.

    A No-name Danish racer is bin quoted for say after he lost his first race in a looooog time, That guy is cheating. When the official asked him got solid proff, he went; Because I am, and he Beat by a far!

    Choose how you wanba do it, it is you who gets remembered for be what you are/was/did.
  15. there is a difference in cheating and reading between the lines and doing anything to gain an advantage if it's not stated that it is not allowed then it's not cheating
  16. Matt_
    Joined: Apr 3, 2013
    Posts: 44


    It appears you cheated in English class too...
  17. Fenders
    Joined: Sep 8, 2007
    Posts: 3,922


    Someone said - It's only cheating if you get caught.
  18. when it's written not allowed it means your not allowed and if you do your cheating
  19. Truckedup
    Joined: Jul 25, 2006
    Posts: 3,966


    Re: ever strech the meaning of STOCK in a race?...........yes,I did a lot of street racing ....Potential opponent is looking at an off topic plain Muscle Car... "What cha got?" "Uh, 318 2 barrel" Then his buddy says it's a 4 speed with a Dana 60.." You gotta a a big wedge or a Hemi" " "Uh,I don't think so".......
  20. raengines
    Joined: Nov 6, 2010
    Posts: 227

    from pa.

    stretching the rules is indeed traditional and has been since the first race, end of story.
    Joined: Nov 10, 2005
    Posts: 846

    from Holly

    And "stock to the eye" leaves a lot of options.

    Tech guy says legal, it's legal.. Thats racing..

    A former IHRA-NHRA tech man..:D
  22. k9racer
    Joined: Jan 20, 2003
    Posts: 3,091


    At a local dirt circle track{{ Molton Speedway}} several weeks ago the whole field 10 cars were D Q ed.. several bitched to much so they checked all the cars.. All were illegal on visual...................................................................................... As far as cheating in racing goes most every one does so to some extent...The 2 best circle tracks I raced on had two rules "" one carburator 4 barrell allowed. and a tire width. Not much to check. ..................................As far as talking my Lawyer has a Big Mouth Bass mounted on his wall,, Below it was is a caption that said >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "" If he had kept his mouth closed he would have NOT been caught either ""
  23. Dr Dirt
    Joined: Oct 2, 2008
    Posts: 69

    Dr Dirt

    Rule books can't cover everything so they always have a disclaimer in them. Which says " IF IT DOESN'T SAY YOU CAN DO IT YOU CAN'T" Plus Officials decisions are final.
  24. 57countrysedan
    Joined: Oct 28, 2012
    Posts: 370

    from NY

    Isnt racing about stretching the rules? No tear down who cares. If no one else thought to do i lt there fault. Congrats on your win. Next time should be harder

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  25. we raced at 3 dirt tracks sat night sunday afternoon and sunday night with the same rules we raced one afternoon temp hot and humid everyone was having heating problems except us the tech inspector from the sunday night track was standing next to me as we refilled the tank with methanol he stated it was illegal i showed him the rule book and under fuel there was nothing listed. he said by the night race we had to run gas and everyone going through the gate got a memo with a correction to an oversight in the rules.
  26. indyjps
    Joined: Feb 21, 2007
    Posts: 4,072


    If you entered by chance and didn't really give a shit, i'd of passed on the trophy. I've done it a small town car shows, I don't want a damn trophy to lug around, it actually meant something to the gold chainer who came in second
  27. orangeamcs
    Joined: Jun 23, 2007
    Posts: 608


    Was thinking hell yes I've stretched the meaning of stock in grudge or street racing, but in organized racing lying is straight up cheating. If u had exploited grey areas I'd say more power to you. But not the case here
  28. bcr466
    Joined: Dec 4, 2010
    Posts: 39


    In round track racing, there are only two classes, cheaters and losers! To the op, I dont know if yours was cheating or not when the competition admitted he was cheating too!
  29. Kerrynzl
    Joined: Jun 20, 2010
    Posts: 2,284


    Cheating Never!

    Innovation all the time.

    How do you think auto racing has advanced so much. People are doing things that have never been done before.
  30. Stroker McGurk
    Joined: Feb 17, 2012
    Posts: 291

    Stroker McGurk
    from Canada

    What was the prize?..If it was just a little plastic trophy, I wouldnt worry about it

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