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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 3wLarry, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. 3wLarry
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 12,804

    Member Emeritus
    from Owasso, Ok

  2. Man!:eek:,,thanks Larry,that is a amazing car. HRP
  3. Holy!!! That was amazing
  4. seatex
    Joined: Oct 24, 2006
    Posts: 2,660


    Wow, beautiful car, but I kept waiting for her to roar to life. MORE!

  5. Great video- thanks for the link Larry!
  6. Black Panther
    Joined: Jan 6, 2010
    Posts: 1,639

    Black Panther
    from SoCal

    Oh Italians...they know how to make movies.....and cars. To all those who chime in when guys are talking about patina...and say that it should be painted over...would you do that to this car? Doubt it...its as awesome as they come...
  7. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
    Posts: 17,864

    from California

    neat car, I would rather have seen a bunch of clear photos than the artsy craftsy video.
  8. falcongeorge
    Joined: Aug 26, 2010
    Posts: 18,341

    from BC

    Wow, great stuff. It never ceases to amaze me that some guys cant see the connection between cars like this and early hot rods.
  9. tfeverfred
    Joined: Nov 11, 2006
    Posts: 15,793


    I get where you're coming from, but I'd like to see this car in ALL her glory. Not a worn relic of times and races past. Looking worn doesn't add to her beauty at all. In fact, it's actually sad. The Mona Lisa gets touched up to keep her looking gorgeous. I doubt millions would flock to see a worn painting with sections missing. This car and many like her should be maintained and cared for lovingly. Patina is a hipster phrase for neglect. It's only cool, when you don't have the time or money to do what's right. IMHO. But, she's not mine, so all I can do is watch the video, Google her amazing history and dream a little.

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  10. Maybe it's just a happy coincidence. But during the closing credits the guy sweeping the leaves stops to slightly move the hood. By doing so the left side edge of the scrolling credits lines up perfectly with the back edge of the hood. :cool:

    Yeah. It's probably just a coincidence. ;)

    Thanks for the link. :D
  11. tfeverfred
    Joined: Nov 11, 2006
    Posts: 15,793


    Unlike today, where a lot of hot rodders try to distance themselves from their sports car roots, the early rodders saw these cars and went straight to the salvage yard and tried to make one like it.

    A lot of guys are trying so hard to relive the "old days", they've over looked the source of original inspiration.
  12. Thanks Larry.
  13. metal man
    Joined: Dec 4, 2005
    Posts: 2,949

    metal man

    That car is awesome. I could not agree more that it should be lovingly and correctly restored to it's original racing glory...and then raced some more at vintage meets. Beautiful.
  14. deuce354
    Joined: Feb 9, 2005
    Posts: 304


    That is a cool ass valuable car. Is that the car the picker guys tried to buy when they were in Italy?
  15. Black Panther
    Joined: Jan 6, 2010
    Posts: 1,639

    Black Panther
    from SoCal

    Tfeverfred....I guess we will never agree....shiny cars are common and boring to me. If im ever at a car show or cruise in....all you see is shiny stuff. Sometimes crowds form around a car...and more often then not its an original worn paint...patinated car. Why? Its authenticity is evident...its a direct link to a different time..that same paint and upholstery and chrome existed decades ago. It makes nostalgia real.....a time machine if you will. You imagine how a scuff on a fender a guys arm wears the paint on the top of the door sill...look at the Cistalia...the scratches around the hood strap clip...all the little things that make a car REAL to those who love also makes your imagination run wild on who discovered the car....its almost like you are discovering it for the first time. Dont get me wrong...I like shiny...but all the above is lost in the process of a restoration.. My personal definition of patina does not include cleared over rust.. however I understand that age in socal in a most beautiful fashion....patina is geographically other places in the rust those guys see their cars in the same light I do.... adjusted to their surroundings..
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  16. i agree...... but i would replace the broom with one that works
  17. chromeazone
    Joined: Apr 23, 2009
    Posts: 231


    Almost everybody likes to peek in a barn.....
    I can't remember the last time I had a car painted - I change my mind on a color everyday, so when someone asks "What color are you going to paint it?" I can say what comes to mind at the moment, and not be wrong.
  18. Thanks Larry!
    You made my day!
    I like this "artsy craftsy" video showing this "worn relic of time and races past".
    To restore this car would be a shame...
  19. Black Panther
    Joined: Jan 6, 2010
    Posts: 1,639

    Black Panther
    from SoCal

    Hilarious! Another reason why I love this place...being serious all the time is boring too..
  20. skinnydude
    Joined: Feb 18, 2008
    Posts: 169


    WOW !!!!!! what a ride ,a truly unique piece .
  21. bobby_Socks
    Joined: Apr 12, 2006
    Posts: 938

    from ǑǃƕǑ

    Thanks for sharing/posting the link Larry -

    The car is a survivor and as Tfeverfred said I would prefer a beautiful shiny(restored if you wish) car but after reading your statement above some cars do deserve to be preserved. Like when you mentioned "the scratches around the hood strap clip...all the little things that make a car REAL to those who love patina" it hit me.

    Black Panther that was very well wrote. Thanks
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  22. wicarnut
    Joined: Oct 29, 2009
    Posts: 4,323


    Very Kool! Thanks! John
  23. Lets just agree to disagree,opinions are just that...:rolleyes:

    i don't know how many of these cars survive but from what I have read there were 202 at the start of the 1947 season.


    I can appreciate this car for exactly what it is.....a relic of a glorious past.

    Whoever owns this beauty has for one reason or another decided to retain the battle scared warriors unrestored look from it's glory years.

    To me restoring this car would be tatanomunt to adding arms to Venus de Milo.:D HRP
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  24. Atwater Mike
    Joined: May 31, 2002
    Posts: 10,266

    Atwater Mike

    To me restoring this car would be tatanomunt to adding arms to Venus de Milo. HRP

    Spoken with true eloguence.
  25. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 15,886


    Gorgeous car that has LIVED. I cannot understand why anyone would want to destroy it's earned condition. Looks like there are others out there that were already restored. Who needs another?
  26. Rick Sis
    Joined: Nov 2, 2007
    Posts: 710

    Rick Sis
    from Tulsa OK

    I dig the simplistic hood latch design.
  27. I've enjoyed reading views from both sides of the patina argument, they are both well thought out and presented and it is hard to disagree with either. In the case of this car one must remember that the "patina" is from use, not neglect. My personal opinion of faded, rusty, cleared over cars, is that it is just an excuse for someone to leave his/her car unfinished, so no one can nitpick his abilities.
  28. tfeverfred
    Joined: Nov 11, 2006
    Posts: 15,793


    Now see! I thought that crusty, useless broom was cool!:D
  29. tallhtrddr
    Joined: Nov 30, 2010
    Posts: 131


    awesome!!!!!! thanks larry,,,,,,,, you guys kill me
  30. tfeverfred
    Joined: Nov 11, 2006
    Posts: 15,793


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