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Edmunds & Jones headlights

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by VoodooTwin, Jul 9, 2013.

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  2. shooter6
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    Stogy, i remember a few years ago , people would complain about old threads being dug up. I faded back into the woodwork but have been watching . I used to have a different name on here back about 12-14 years ago but couldnt remember it when i got back from the desert.
     
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  3. Atwater Mike
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    The elderly man I bought my '27 tub from (body, frame; roller, $300!) had a mint pair on the shelf in his shop. (E&J) I asked if they were for sale, and he asked what I'd offer...I said they were worth a LOT, but I wasn't interested.
    He then sold me the steel '27 roadster with fenders, (no axles, bustle, or running gear...but body, frame, GAS TANK, doors were NICE!...$250!)
    My F100 made 2 trips to get my 'T' stuff home. FARK the ugly E&J's.
    But they served their purpose, as he said he knew I wasn't there to take advantage...
     
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    I meant to say, you just did. :cool:
     
  6. Stogy
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    Some of the Hambs best threads have faded to the background and it is a pleasure to see what built this nostalgic celebration the Hamb.

    As it is always suggested "Did you use the search?"

    The gospel is ever changing but a lot has been archived...rightfully so. If it wasn't worthy it wouldn't still be here. I have great respect for the enterprising individuals who fueled the customizing automotive evolution we feed off for what we enjoy.

    Edmund & Jones is one of them...;)

    Hope you find yours...Crafty B thread below...may be posted already...

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/crafty-b-max-bullet-e-j-style-headlights.368817/

    Some History...

    http://www.nailhed.com/2015/05/rotten-to-core.html

    http://detroiturbex.com/content/industry/edmund/index.html

    These are cool...

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...nes-headlights-like-youve-never-seen.1015938/
     
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    Credit to Photographer, Owner

     
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  12. classiccarjack
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    Does Zipper still make the fiberglass reproduction lights?

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  13. classiccarjack
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    It seems that SAR has gaskets and lenses.... Does anyone make these lights today, as in a complete set?

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  14. Stogy
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    This is why old threads are important...I will snoop around tomorrow but others may chime in and you have alerted Denis...as eluded originals pull a pretty penny...
     
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    Reproduction is good enough for me. I am saving something that was left as a throw away. I don't have much to work with, but I am finding good solutions within my budget.

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    This is a long shot but what the heck...there is a fellow at this forum below who made reproductions in 2009. He is in Michigan.

    Bob Scherzer -- Saginaw, MI

    http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/87943.html?1239764662

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    If you're patient and can wait awhile, I'm working on reproducing the E&J lights. They'll be as close as possible in appearance to the originals.

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    I'd love to see the front of the skirted '30-31 Ford in post #69...the whole car is at least knocking on the door of a good design, and it looks like the E&J's just might look decent among the other bulbous shapes...something harf to do on an early Ford!
     
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  22. Stogy
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    Bruce I've searched high and low for other pics of this and it highlights how rare images of these reminders of a past glorious time are. Albert Drake is the one who spoke of and perhaps photographed this car and the man who owned it...his name was Bob Feeley...

    There is a chance that the top left photo in the pic below may be the same car albiet the lights are not E & J's and the hood looks to be different at least in color. It could be the same car just a different time-frame of its existence. If it is not it seems as if it may have been at the very least a Frank Kurtis creation or inspired by.

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    https://www.customcarchronicle.com/custom-history/history-of-the-early-custom-car/

     
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    First prototype of an E&J headlight ring. I could have bought a decent used car for the price this prototype cost me but it'll be worth it in the end.
    Next up are a pair of shells.[​IMG][​IMG]

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  26. Those looks machined, is it your pattern to cast them?
     
  27. Stogy
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    @edwardlloyd your passion for automotive history, all things mechanical and the fine details are just something to behold...awesome.

    I take it the inner workings are going to be a setup of your design rather than projected as the originals.

    If a modern lighting setup is what you are using the outer lense will externally mimic the original?
     
  28. edwardlloyd
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    Not sure yet. Machining has a high unit cost but low capital investment. Casting costs loads up front. It'll depend on demand.

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  29. edwardlloyd
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    You're correct. I'll be using a modern light inside. I considered projectors but they're expensive too. I've found a light which looks pretty close.
    I'm not even sure if it's going to be viable yet.

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