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Dwight Bond flathead to t5 adaptor useing model a stock pedal ass.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by jan bogert, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. jan bogert
    Joined: Jul 11, 2011
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    first i'd like to thank Dwight for makeing a great adaptor. i was leary about it at first, but as you can see the end results, PERFECT!!! if your building an AV8 useing a flathead and a t5 this is it, just use the stock pedals. JAN.:):):)
     

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  2. Chopper56
    Joined: May 16, 2012
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    Jan, I'm doing exactly the same thing you did,putting a S10 trans behind a flat head with the dwight bond adapter. What I cant figure out is,I want to use model A pedals like you did but I can't figure out the pedal linkage. Do I need to cut the ears off the clutch pedal to get them to go in the right direction(rearward) for clutch activation?I have a ford four speed short bell housing on my set up for the clutch. How did you connect the throwout shaft to the from the bell housing to the pedals? Well any help would be great cause I've been calling and searching for weeks now on something that was supposed to be easy!
     
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    This is a 1940 clutch release shaft, including the ball mount/pivot at the frame.
    Model A frame.
    Dwight Bond T5 adapter.

    Yes you will need to re-orient the ears on the Model A pedals. I will look for pics of my pedals.



    Walt
     
  4. I'd like to see this set-up also.
     
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  5. K. Hope these pics tell the story.
    Here are all the parts laid out. You can see the pedals, modified.
    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1416884644.616964.jpg

    The bolt is 7/8 diameter, same as the model A pedal shaft. It bolts through the boxed frame, via a welded "sleeve". The stock pedal bushings are used.
    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1416884678.059392.jpg

    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1416884848.533492.jpg the 40 clutch release shaft pivots on this ball (also a 1940 part) , which is bolted to a bracket on the frame.
    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1416884910.961844.jpg
    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1416884930.455630.jpg

    More pics to follow.


    Walt
     
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    clutch pedal

    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1416885278.508818.jpg
    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1416885302.690689.jpg

    This bracket is bolted to the frame. The 7/8 bolt is also bolted to it. It contains the master cylinder. ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1416885340.142056.jpg


    Walt
     
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  7. To be clear, I did not fab this. Mike Frieden at Champion Chassis put it together. I am the parts scrounger, mostly.

    Hope this helps. Still need to figure a clutch helper return spring, maybe the pedals will need bent a little too.


    Walt
     
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  8. Tudor mark
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    Tudor mark

    How do I contact Dwight bond? Looking for a t5 to model a banger adapter plate
     
  9. gimpyshotrods
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  10. flthd31
    Joined: Aug 5, 2007
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    Dwight Bond Second Chance Classics
    Gibbon NE.
    308-468-5885
     
  11. Katuna
    Joined: Feb 25, 2005
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    from Clovis,Ca.

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    Here's how we did ours. Just used Dwayne's pedal shaft and the stock pedals. Cut the original connection point off the brake pedal and welded an arm on the bottom. Used all stock pieces for the clutch linkage. Only thing I would have changed is the return spring mounting point. Just drilled a hole and used a clevis pin. Should have welded a tab on the back side of the pedal arm and made it a little cleaner. Works fine otherwise.
     
  12. Chopper56
    Joined: May 16, 2012
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    I'm doing the exact same thing as you did,my question is what exact year "stock" small arm is attached to the throw out bearing shaft and did you make a pivot shaft out of round stock to adapt the small arm to the pedal? I get all the rest. Nice work by the way.
     
  13. Atwater Mike
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    Beautiful work! I love Model A pedals.
     
  14. Katuna
    Joined: Feb 25, 2005
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    from Clovis,Ca.

    Thanks. If I remember correctly I just ordered all the stock Model A parts from MACs. We just got the motor/trans mounted up and had to heat and bend the pedals to get them up where they needed to be. Too close to the floor. This is a non-Ford car so I knew there would be some tweaking required. ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1429716815.847728.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1429716841.727207.jpg
     
  15. Katuna
    Joined: Feb 25, 2005
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    from Clovis,Ca.

    Oh yeah, just remembered, I had an extended shaft made for the clutch fork. Wasn't sure if my he stock one would be long enough. Had it made way long then whacked it off where I needed.
     
  16. Chopper56
    Joined: May 16, 2012
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    Yes, that's why I asked about the "stock" parts because I have all the stock parts,pedals and linkage but nothing goes on to that flat part of the pivot shaft for the throw out bearing so I knew you had to make something for that!I was trying to keep the pedals inside the passenger compartment when they were used but I gave up on that because it seems to need way more travel,thus I cut slots in the body to pass the pedal arms through.Could you possible tell me approximately how much that shft rotates?If the shaft is all the way back,throw out bearing back, how far does the equalizer bar rotate? 40 degrees or 90 degrees?Just trying to figure out my pedal and linkage lenths,thanks.
     
  17. Katuna
    Joined: Feb 25, 2005
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    from Clovis,Ca.

    Chopper-Not sure on the degree of travel. When we recently put everything together in the car with a mock up block I was concerned that we may not have enough travel on the fork/T O brg. We just pulled the old block out and I can see we have approx. 3/4"-1" of travel on the brg. Need to find out if that's enough. We're using a diaphragm clutch.

    I'll try and remember to check the degree of travel tomorrow.

    Anyone know how much travel I need?
     

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