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Technical driveshaft angle

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Frames, Sep 15, 2023.

  1. Frames
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    Guys get on me for only buying and selling on the HAMB so I am showing off my 1944 Chevy PU chassis. The engine is LEVEL. I think it looks better that way No I KNOW it looks better! . Milled the intake manifold. Front of frame LEVEL. Kicked the frame up at the cowl to obtain the rake I wanted. Front U joint a few degrees down. Rear U joint a few degrees up. PS; D F R C 2 X 4 mandrel bent rails. 1990. Before Fatman and before Morrison. _1944_chevy_FRONT - Copy.jpg _1944_chevy_highboy_.jpg _pickup_rear_quarter_z - Copy.jpg img592.jpg
     
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  2. Chassis porn is good
     
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  3. alchemy
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    No disrespect, but just think if that truck had a set of tall and skinny bias ply Firestones!
     
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  4. leon bee
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    With blackwalls
     
  5. jimmy six
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    You tube… IMCA Modified rear end movement. You will never worry again or concern yourself with driveshaft angle. Yes it’s extreme but according to manufactures specifications a u-joint can work thru a 22 degrees swing. 11 up to 11 down.
     
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  6. gimpyshotrods
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    How many street miles does an IMCA Modified car see in a year?

    Extreme angles shorten the life of u-joints, extremely. The reason why we shoot for the minimum angle is longevity.

    Nobody wants to stop in the middle of a 200-mile trip to replace u-joints.
     
  7. ekimneirbo
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    I think the level engine looks good in your truck. Sometimes the "stance" of a vehicle makes it more difficult to position an engine level, but it's nicely done in yours.
     
  8. GearheadsQCE
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    @Frames,
    What front axle is that?
     
  9. Frames
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    Then it most likely would not have won " MEGUIARS MAGNIFICENT MASTERPIECE " & " CUSTOM CLASSICS TRUCKS magazine TOP TEN" at Goodguys S E Nationals. 6 page feature in the magazine. Only truck that ever got a 6 page feature. They compared me to Chip Foose and Roy Brizio in the April 2006 artical. ***** Also quote. " As awesome a machine as we've ever seen in our years of custom vintage truck and car worship"
     
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  10. Frames
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    5 " drop. I don't remember the maker.
     
  11. GearheadsQCE
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    Darn,
    I was hoping you'd remember. I'd like to buy one like that. Speedway has one that is close.
     
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  13. Frames
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    I ground the weld smooth on the front side only.
     
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  14. Frames
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    What do you think if the engine isn't level or up in front but down in front. BACKERS 007.jpg
     
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  15. Frames
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    Several years ago Rodders Journal featured a black 3 window. Radical rake and radical engine pointed up in front. Like the frame was broke at the cowl. So freak'n ugly. But it was owned by a gold chainer so it got featured.
     
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  16. Engine level is the starting point, once established the rest of the build is open to personal preference.
    An obvious quality build...nicely done!
     
  17. kasselyn29
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    Right on nice truck!
     
  18. Frames
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  19. jimmy six
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    When I said to look at an IMCA modified rear end movement it was an example of not to concern yourself with a few degrees. I have built a few cars with both engine and rear end swaps. I do my best to keep the rear end and engine parallel to the ground as most manufacturers did in the 60’s. The longer the driveshaft is the better on the u joints but since that’s not possible on shorter 30’s hot rods I still try to keep under 5* combination. I have always used grease style and service them.
     
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  20. Frames
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    Al. You are being very disrespectful. img601.jpg
     
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    How do you purge air from the engine cooling system with the engine down in front?
     
  25. yea its wank material for sures
     
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  26. choptop40
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    Nice planning....thats using your mental powers...
     
  27. alchemy
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    Frames, sorry I hurt your feelings. I must have really had an effect, cause you already responded to that post over two months ago. Have you been stewing about it this whole time?

    I know you are a very humble master builder, as the article you posted tells us. Please accept my apologies because as Goodguys says, you are much more talented than me. Some tall and skinny wheels/tires would never look as good as those short and fats on your truck.
     
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  28. Frames
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    Never gave it a 2nd thought.
     
  29. 3 to 6 Deg. drive shaft angle.
     
  30. Budget36
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    BTT

    ;)
     
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