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History Drag cars in motion.......picture thread.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Royalshifter, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. Mike VV
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    ALL...crankshafts will do this with enough rpm.
    Why do you thing the harmonic damper (NOT a "balancer" in most engines !) was developed ? To help tame this action. Hence the rubber between the hub and the reaction ring.
    So the reaction ring would help smooth this harmonic...or the act of the crankshaft "twisting", as each throw would see its power stroke, not necessary running backward.

    I doubt that this would have any different happening just because of the use of using two engines.
    In any case, the blower/blower belt and blower in its own way actually acts as a damper.
    One of the big reasons that belts break in modern Top Fuel engines, the crank is going through some heavy duty twisting as each cylinder puts large power into each crank throw, twisting the hell out of the crankshaft.
    Now, throw in a misfire, there goes the belt..!

    Mike
     
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  2. noboD
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    I understood it after thinking about it. It's just against normal thought to believe the crank going backwards at 7000 rpm. No wonder they break.
     
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  3. aaronjohn20
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    Sam Shinaberry far lane near the fence in the "Marble Muncher" @ClayMart received_1865367816989884.jpeg
     
  4. George Klass
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    The cranks never broke, they just hammered the hell out of the main bearings of the rear mounted engines...
     
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  5. 65pacecar
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  6. aaronjohn20
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    I have this pic also. Actively hunting more. Got a great guy on it!!!
     
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  7. jnaki
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    Hello,


    Ever since our involvement in drag racing at nearby Lion’s Dragstrip, we were always looking ahead at what was next. Nothing was written in stone, but it was a lot of fun getting our feet wet in the A/Stock class racing with the 348 powered 58 Impala. We were learning and developing our favorite racers and race cars as we enjoyed the drag racing scene all over So Cal.

    When my brother and I arrived at the Riverside Raceway in late 1959, we saw a bright yellow roadster in the pits and I had to take a short film of it. it just looked mean and fast.
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    At the time, we liked anything sponsored by Iskenderian Cam Company. It was one of those things that teenage boys liked in our conversations, with plenty of ammunition for discussions about why Isky, and not Engle or Howard.


    The Yellow Ganzer, Weeks and Palmquist roadster was attractive and set records in So Cal almost monthly. It was not an Altered Roadster, a Street Roadster or Modified Roadster. Some So Cal dragstrips had them in a Modified Roadster Class and others listed them in a Hot Roadster class. At the time, standard listings for all of the local dragstrips was, “…come as you are and we will put you in a class.”

    Jnaki

    It was a little confusing as mentioned earlier in a different post about Modified Roadsters. In this time period mentioned, at the Riverside Raceway, they were listed as being in the Hot Roadster class.
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    1959 Ganzer, Palmquist, Weeks at the Riverside Raceway
    Drag Cars in Motion...


    Note:
    Having almost a life size edition of the You Tube film can be seen on your large screen TV through the You Tube streaming channel. It was fun watching it on a large screen. When the "sound editions" of my old drag racing films came up, you were right there in the action from 1958-64. Check it out...
     
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  9. 65pacecar
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  11. jnaki
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    Early Mickey Brown Quincy Automotive Oldsmobile powered FED Lion’s Dragstrip


    Hello,

    This is a photo of the late Mickey Brown driving the Quincy Automotive Oldsmobile powered FED in the early era of 1959. This was the beginning of the Oldsmobile powered FED. The next level was in this later photo.
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    The group decided that the top mounted 671 gave them a better all around power for winning.
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    This was the version that my brother and I saw weekly in 1959.

    At Lion’s Dragstrip, the races between Mickey Brown and The Sidewinder were epic. Those were stand up photo ops if there ever was a photo op.
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    Mickey Brown-Quincy Automotive Oldsmobile FED

    Jnaki

    It was a sad memory in late 1959 for all of the racers at Lions Dragstrip and So Cal. Mickey Brown substituted for Mort Smith on a fateful Sept. 12 night in 1959 at Lions and was killed in the different dragster, when it overturned.

    In the Drag News 1959 AN EXCERPT FROM MORT SMITH OF ENGLE CAMS:
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    "Mickey Brown"
    "Born: July 26, 1937 Died: September 12, 1959 Age: 22"

    "Michael Daryl Brown Lions Drag Strip, Wilmington, California Accident Date: September 12, 1959"

    "Car: Scrima-Adams-Smith Olds-powered dragster"

    "Biographical: Ronnie Scrima and Mort Smith were testing a new short wheelbase (93") dragster at Lions. They had dropped Gene Adams's Oldsmobile engine in the car, but were having a hard time getting it down the track. Mickey Brown had left his own Olds-powered dragster at home and he offered to see if he could drive the car."

    "About 100 feet from the starting line, he lost control and flipped upside down, suffering fatal injuries because his head got outside the confines of the roll bar. He was transported to Seaside Hospital where he was pronounced dead on arrival. His wife witnessed the crash. Racers remembered him as a kind of wild, but fun-loving kid. He was the first man to go over 150 MPH in a gas dragster."
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    Lions Dragstrip Museum Memorial Wall: Mickey Brown 2nd from right, top row… Great artwork by Cindy Gibbs…
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    Later in 1959, he was testing another FED and it had handling problems even his outstanding skill could not overcome.


    NOTE:
    In the beginning of the 1960 year, Lion’s Dragstrip racers were feeling the loss of one of the best drivers from So Cal. Mickey Brown was just 22 years old and making a big time name for himself in drag racing. Here is an excerpt from that tragic post then at his memorial event in January of 1960, the Competition Coupe of Leffler Loukas was presented with a world record trophy.

    In the 1959 year at Lions, there was a big loss for all drag racing fans and racers. A young, Mickey Brown, racing in a different FED was unlucky and lost his life at a very early age. All of the Lions Dragstrip competitors and supporters gathered together to help the family of Mickey Brown. In January of 1960, there was a benefit drag race meet held at Lions Dragstrip and the majority of the top racers in the area were signed up to compete. The list of donations from the So Cal Speed Shops and manufacturers was long and supportive.

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    ($11000 in 1960 equals approximately $96000, today. )

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  12. 65pacecar
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    A few from Tom Nicklin FB post. FB_IMG_1636396265417.jpg FB_IMG_1636396343741.jpg FB_IMG_1636396265417.jpg
     
  14. old flopper
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    65pacecar
    I thought you might enjoy this one.
    Big Red 2 & 3.jpg
     
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  17. bchctybob
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    What did they do to Big Red #3? Looks like they used a 4dr front door and shortened the car to match? A different take on altered wheelbase.
     
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  18. old flopper
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    That’s exactly what was done to it, and it was different take on AWB even though the rear axle was also moved ahead about 6 inches, if you look closely you can notice it when compared to Big Red 2 in far lane, and engine was also set back (can’t recall how much) but you can see injector stacks almost touching windshield. Both where identical ’65 Plymouth 2 door cars before the modifications to #3.
     
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    Do you have anymore from Chandler you’ve not posted?
     
  22. tommyd
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    Not anymore. I lost everything when I got off of facebook.
     
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  23. rudestude
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    It's not really in motion....but I thought it just looked damn cool. 20211110_121605(0)~2.jpg
     
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    I couldn't agree more! :cool:
     
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