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History Drag cars in motion.......picture thread.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Royalshifter, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. D.N.D.
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    With 4 slicks that baby was a real tire smoker
     
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  2. I've often wondered if that wasn't a better way than the way we drill them today.
     
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  3. DDDenny
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    I'm sure the engineer types will call out all kinds of numbers relating to "shear" but the average Joe will just try things until either it works or he runs out of money replacing wheels and slicks. Not saying it wasn't common, I've just never seen it before.
    As far as how it's done today; nothing new there other than most probably use a drill press nowadays.
    I first drilled a pair of wheels (Ansen Sprints) about 1974 with a hand drill, and because I couldn't afford Halibrands which I wanted badly, I just painted them with Krylon gold spray, it made my Ansens look like the ones on Don Carltons Mopar Missile pro stock Duster.
     
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  4. D.N.D.
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    I was at the Beach one Sunday testing my friends new Willys, and Gas was making a run in that Injected AFX and it broke something in the rear and did she go end over end

    It was very lucky to be Sunday and not many people in the stands as it wound in the bottom row of the stands, as Gas came out OK too

    DND
     
  5. It was a tire smoker because, just like Art Chrisman's twin engine Hustler, the rear end layout lifted weight of the front slicks when the torque took arched the frame causing loss of traction. Though the Mistress was a flop, Bill Coburn liked the Messerschmidt body enough to use it as a mold to build the bodies in glass.
     
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  6. falcongeorge
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    There was an article on this deal in Car Craft at the time. Yes, early attempt at a containment blanket. Want to say this was 1966?
     
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  7. 1934coupe
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    Bob no help yet on the 37 Chevy but my friend sent me this (edited version) Novatny was his partner and he just had lunch with him yesterday. They meet once a month in the Lake George area of NY.

    Pat! Here's a picture, present,
    and past of our ole Willys, 'Baby Cakes'! A guy in Pa. has it,
    still under restoration.The original chassis rusted out,and now
    it has a 'Fat-Man setup. Also,he found a '40' steel nose he put
    on it. I have wrote him letters,and left phone messages for him
    to let me know the progress,and gotten "NO" response for 3
    years now,from him (???). I don't know what the problem is?
    It's a 'bittersweet' situation,but at least the Willys,is still alive!!!
    There ya go Pat, good to hear from ya,and hope all is o.k.
    with you, brother Mike,and family!!!...Pete.
     

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  8. loudbang
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    Yes that was from 1966 for sure
     
  9. DDDenny
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    Hey loudbang
    I can't find ANYTHING about this particular photo on the internet, I Googled Syndicate 11 (2) see cowl, nothing comes back but the same photo with no real text about it.
    I dont know why I have this fascination with the 671.

     
  10. loudbang
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    It was from the Hot Rod Mag series of articles on drag racing. Came from one photo in a google search I think of Ford drag racing. Sorry but I have deleted the links but sent them to another member maybe he still has them. it's a strange one I got it on like page three of 6 and went back to page number one to start this series. Then when I sent him the links a week or so later I tired and the earlier pages were unavailable.I will check with him.

    But The photo had no caption other than they just started in 1966. I think I posted all that was in the story in the history part but you never know. This would be in part 6 of the series it went into 67,68 maybe 69 but those are verbatin here
     
  11. DDDenny
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    Hey @falcongeorge
    You got your ears on good buddy.
    After your vacation you have one more thing to add to your research list:mad:
    Syndicate 2 supercharger containment blanket.
     
  12. thehazguy
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  14. falcongeorge
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    I was thinking the same thing, if I remember, when I get home I will dig it up and post it here
     
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  15. DDDenny
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    Just tie a string around your..............never mind.
     
  16. Ray C's son
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    Can anyone identify this one for me?
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    Thanks, guys
    Kevin
     
  17. D.N.D.
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    Yep that is a crank blown SBC ' Dragmaster . from the early 60's

    DND
     
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  18. Ray C's son
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    Thanks, DND. Do you or anyone else know who owned/drove it?

    Kevin
     
  19. Thanks for the reply. I don't get some guys. You would think the current owner of "Baby Cakes" would want all the info he could get on the car! Thanks again, Bob
     
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  20. 296ardun
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    1468362.jpg
    Here is another picture of Bill Coburn's Fiat coupe, this time in gray primer. It kept the nose with grill that Bill ran on his earlier '34 Ford competition coupe. In the background is the Heidelberg Speed Shop altered, and Carl Grimes bus that he hauled his Buick-powered Fiat in. Behind the bus is the Mackey and Veselka Bantam-bodied competition coupe. This was the time of steel bodies, before fiberglass, and homemade chassis and engines.
     
  21. Gabe Fernando
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    The bus looks like it would be as much 'fun' to drive as the Fiat.
     
  22. D.N.D.
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    I think Dode Martin is local here in so-cal maybe someone has contact info on him, he might know for you

    DND
     
  23. jnaki
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    Hello,
    Here is a compilation of all of the Dragmaster racers that I shot between 1959-60 at Lions, Riverside, and Bakersfield. Most of them are Dode Martin and Jim Nelson. But there are some that I cannot identify. Plus, they all had wire wheels except for that gold one with the red rims. Maybe someone can identify the unknowns...296ardun has resources like no other... Good luck in your search...I like the American Mags, myself...
    Thanks,
    Jnaki
     
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  26. funny - one of those old GMC buses showed up at a local eating spot....they haven't made an eating area out of it yet.....still has the motor in it.....
     
  27. Marty Strode
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    Dragmaster "Two Sum" on the cowl, I did a search and came up dry.
     
  28. 296ardun
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    Another great video!! All the pictures of the Potvin-blown Dragmaster were Nelson & Martin. At .26 there is a flathead powered Dragmaster chassis that I think was called "Dragmaster Little Thing," but don't remember who ran it. At .36 Dragmaster is racing Dick Lechien from San Diego in the Adriance Appliance TE-440 (with a very large injector scoop), and at .43 Dragmaster is racing Glenn Stokey. At .53 Dragmaster is racing Jack Chrisman in the Sidewinder. at 1.13 Dragmaster is racing Bayer and Frietas at Lions, and at 1.37 Bayer and Frietas again, this time at Riverside. These were the days of the fuel ban, so the cars were all gas burners. I don't know who ran Dragmaster Two Sum, all I know is that the guy posing with it is not Jim Nelson nor Dode Martin.
    I could watch these videos for hours on end...I was one of the lucky ones who spectated at Lions during these times, and later was fortunate enough to race there. Never forgot the fog rolling in, and the mixed scents of nitro, tire smoke, and the fumes from the nearby oil refinery (which is still there). THANKS FOR POSTING!
     
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  29. glrbird
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    Saw this great video of cars of my youth, nice push trucks also. You can almost smell the fuel.
     
  30. DDDenny
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    I'm guessing the smell of burgers frying too.
    I can't pass up a coke shack if I catch a whiff of a greasy track burger.
     
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