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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by falconizer_62, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. No_Respect
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    Does any one know if 14x5 reversed wheels would fit the round body wagons?
     
  2. Locoxp
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    I know this is a while back but just saw it and thought I'd share what's going in mine ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1441665201.651536.jpg
     
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  3. Kustom.Falcon
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  4. Nailhead A-V8
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    I found a pair of 14" rims from a 66 barracuda they clear the disc hub no problem have the correct V8 bolt pattern and have only minorly smaller hub cap mounting than the falcon dog dish caps should be able to weld a small amount to the rim to make up the difference - cheers
     
  5. Falcon61wagon
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    I have not done much to the falcon this summer but still have been collecting parts. I picked up a used dura spark II and recently saw a new hei dizzy for the six, sporting a small cap. I was wondering if anybody else had tried this one and if the cap is considerable smaller than the regular size.
     

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  6. oldcarguygazok
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    Been rebuilding the f/end on my 63 delivery,i'm using Mustang upper and lower arms,it's already 5stud but the muzzy tie rods are sloppy in the stub axles,do Moogs do them,or can you still get original parts,thanks.
     
  7. Falcon61wagon
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    I've been cutting out the rot in my wagons floor board and frame sections. The drivers side frame rail is 80% gone so i am having a local shop bend a new straight section to which i will make a pattern off the passenger side and modify. Any recommendations to the thickness of metal this new piece should be? They said the original was 14. I was thinking going with 13.
     
  8. Falcon61wagon
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    Apparently 13 is an odd size. So 14 it is.
     
  9. Falcon61wagon
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    I bought a set of 14" rims but one is bent. And the local rim shop gave it there two best try's and she's still not straight.
    Im considering ditching them and buying new so I dont have to deal with it or any other issues that might occur. I realize if I buy new I'd be going to a 5 lug pattern. Is there any reason why these rims wouldn't work- http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Dexstar/AM20304.html they are much cheaper than what summit is offering.
     
  10. Falcon61wagon
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    Does anybody know if the wide pattern bell housing will fit in an early falcon tunnel?
     
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  11. Falcon61wagon
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    Has anybody used a gear vendor's overdrive unit in their falcon. I considering going that route vs the t5. It would be nice to let the wife drive occasionally. I'd be running a 170-200 with a c4. Any input would be appreciated.
     
  12. TravDav
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    I'm putting in a. 1968 200 in.³ 4spd out of a mustang in my 61 ranchero bell housing seems to fit(little tight) not sure if thats the your refrencing though...


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  13. Falcon61wagon
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    Yes, I was referring to a bellhousing for a 9"clutch setup
     
  14. Falcon61wagon
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    Any body have any experience with gear vendor's overdrive unit?
     
  15. gimpyshotrods
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    Not on a C4, but on other, larger vehicles. They work just fine.

    You are still going to have to cut quite a bit of the floor to get it in there, though, and directly under the bench. Not sure how well that will clear. You might find yourself running bucket seats.
     
  16. Mike51Merc
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    Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to just do an AOD swap?
     
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  17. Gammz
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    I was alps thinking that clearance might not be the best for one of them deals. How about installing a AOD instead. I've heard that works pretty good.
     
  18. gimpyshotrods
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    Depends on the year of the block. Early blocks have a different pattern than later ones. AOD's don't fit the early blocks.
     
  19. Falcon61wagon
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    What about the 67 dual pattern block?
     
  20. gimpyshotrods
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    I have not seen an AOD for anything but the last-generation block.
     
  21. gimpyshotrods
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    Don, he's talking about the little inline-6, not an SBF.

    Early Falcon inline-6's (4-main 144, 170, and 200) had an 8-1/2" clutch, with a bellhousing pattern to go with that. When Ford introduced the 200, 7-main block they added the possibility of a 9" clutch, which has a pattern with the two top holes higher up (the rest are the same). From 1965-1968* the blocks has both patterns on them. *In typical ford fashion of overlap, in mid-1967 the 9" clutch only block appeared, and remained until 1979. In 1980 the little 6 got the SBF 6-bolt bellhousing pattern.

    The only AOD that I know of that will fit a small-6 fits the 1980-on block.
     
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  22. My BAD! I thought he was talking Small Block Ford - OOPS :(
     
  23. gimpyshotrods
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    Incidentally, in-regards to the AOD, it also was introduced in 1980, so it does not fit anything that had a pattern that went away before 1980.
     
  24. TravDav
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    if any one is interested in checking out some reproduction falcon racecars, built a couple nice units


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  25. Falcon61wagon
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    I am rethinking the t5 swap and considering putting a 3.03 top loader in. Does any body know what years bolts to what. I presently have the original 61' 170 in the car but I also have a 67' 200 I'd like to swap over in the future.
     
  26. NewGuyOldFord
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    Hey TigerII, what carb are you running and what mods were done to it? Thanks.
     
  27. Bigcheese327
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    With the right bell housing (C3UA-6394-A) it's possible to put a 3.03 behind an early six. It may require a spacer or machining to accommodate the input-shaft length of the newer transmission. The 3.03s were factory equipment by 1967, so all you need on your 200 is its original bell.

    The C3UA-6394-A bell appears to have been some kind of Econoline or Fairlane thing to offer a heavy-duty transmission behind the six (probably a T-86, maybe with overdrive), but I've never heard it explained.
     
  28. gimpyshotrods
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    That is the early Econoline bellhousing. The diminutive Falcon transmission was deemed to weak for a "truck" application.

    It is for the narrow top-loader, behind the Falcon-6, with an 8-1/2" clutch.

    This is the same one you use with an adapter, and a T5, for that swap.
     
  29. Gammz
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    I'll take a gander at the bell that came off my c-4 200 six combo. It's just collecting dust.
     
  30. Gammz
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    Well I can't seem to find any numbers on the bell. Anyone have some clue where to look? Or maybe didn't get a number.
     

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