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Features Discounting The Consensus

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ryan, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
    Posts: 19,803

    Staff Member

    Ryan submitted a new blog post:

    Discounting The Consensus


    Continue reading the Original Blog Post
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  2. Hnstray
    Joined: Aug 23, 2009
    Posts: 12,100

    from Quincy, IL

    If the consensus was against black roadsters with red wheels etc., then I don't think you'd see so many. Seems to me that the consensus is that they are well liked and therefore consistently emulated.

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  3. HelmuthBrothers
    Joined: Oct 11, 2007
    Posts: 720

    from New Jersey

    Glad to see I was able to help you get out of some funk Ryan. I’ve been sitting in that same boat for a few months now as well. It’s always a pleasure to work with you and the JJ.

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  4. belair
    Joined: Jul 10, 2006
    Posts: 8,739


    Sweet little car. Neve make excuses for the truth, whether it's as complicated as life so as simple as a car that is "right." The truth is never trite.

  5. F&J
    Joined: Apr 5, 2007
    Posts: 13,223


    recently...when you were still under the pain meds at the recent surgery hospital bed, you dared/hesitated to mention studying far eastern ideology...

    I am thinking you are finally finding "the" path... "Manifestation .. Law of Attraction.... Creating your own Reality.. "

    it took 66 years and nearing permanent Dementia from Lyme to guide me there. Fear Not

  6. 5window
    Joined: Jan 29, 2005
    Posts: 8,298


    I hear what you're saying. And, glad you're feeling better. It's a very nice, very well done car. It isn't different, but a refinement of ideas going back to the day when a A first rolled off the assembly line. In a word:traditional.
    It is the purity of the line that attracts us and that doesn't get old or trite.

    If you are looking for a consensus, you need only to read the McDonald's sign. 110 million (now billions) sold? I surely don't want to be in that giant group that thinks what they're selling is a good hamburger. If they can't appreciate a great burger, how could they appreciate a great car?

    Live the day!
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  7. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
    Posts: 19,803

    Staff Member

    And I worried no one would get it...
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  8. Perspective is often acquired over years, perfection is what we all try to achieve over those years. That little Roadster is pretty darn close to perfection and that's from my perspective.:D.........Love the details like the Ford script craftily incorporated into the upper portion of the firewall. What a gem!
  9. Thanks for some inspiration to get my old heap out of the 80's and back to it's roots. That's a bitchin' roadster.
  10. dana barlow
    Joined: May 30, 2006
    Posts: 4,434

    dana barlow
    from Miami Fla.
    1. Y-blocks

    It's all part of going to Church,we each have. Thanks for the site n notes ,Ryan MyChruch.jpg
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  11. After what seems like decades of hearing negative nellies prattle on about sbc's in old Fords, "all '32 roadsters look alike", and on and on I'm pleased to see you comment on this. Having done this kind of stuff for over 55 years it could be easy to get jaded...………..but it hasn't happened yet. At a glance these styles may seem very repetitive, boring to some, but each has their own statement somewhere in the build. A good example is from just one picture in this grouping, though others could have been used. This little gem has that nice cowl vent and the raised Ford logo on the firewall. Ground breaking? Not likely, but interesting just the same. Enjoyment is often in the little things.
  12. Oh yee of little faith.

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  13. Jalopy Joker
    Joined: Sep 3, 2006
    Posts: 27,253

    Jalopy Joker

    anything that is meant to last must be built on a solid foundation - black cars with an accent of red and shiny parts pays tribute to the early days when budgets were small but, dreams were big
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  14. Mr T body
    Joined: Nov 2, 2005
    Posts: 2,194

    Mr T body
    Alliance Vendor
    from SoCal

    Sounds like you almost had the "traditional" epiphany...... there is no such thing and trying to recreate (and enforce) the sameness leads to boredom. It's the same but different for all of us here.
    The difference is "I sort of like this new perspective from over here inside my brain and frankly, I’ve never given a shit about the consensus." makes you edgy but us banned. Ah, the conundrum......
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  15. 19Fordy
    Joined: May 17, 2003
    Posts: 7,275


    Black with red is classic hot rod - not to be dismissed.

    Hope you feel "spiffy" soon.
  16. anthony myrick
    Joined: Sep 4, 2009
    Posts: 8,376

    anthony myrick

    I don't see the black and red colors as 'what we expect"
    its stance, proportions and attitude, the colors are irrelevant
    sometimes the term 'cookie cutter' is used for cars like this
    so what, cool is cool, and let the folks that complain about the'cookie cutter cars" keep wishing they had something this cool.
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  17. Malcolm
    Joined: Feb 9, 2006
    Posts: 7,759

    from Nebraska

    Neat, well done roadster. Great photos! @HelmuthBrothers
    (Please tell/show us more about the '57 Ford, too!)
  18. I've heard it said time and again that black cars with red wheels has been beat to death, I liked it 50 years ago and still like it today, pure and simple look that I hope will always be considered as the traditional hot rod look. HRP

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  20. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
    Posts: 15,200

    from oregon

    It's got a deuce grill shell and red insert, what's not to like!
  21. In 1957 Elvis drove this.
    From the movie "Loving You"

    Black roadsters with red wheels and whitewalls
    were cool then, cool now and still will be when we are all gone!!!
    Rock on Ryan!
  22. Perspective is the key to living.
  23. Cree
    Joined: Jun 13, 2017
    Posts: 119

    from Montana

    A hot rod is like a painting, many are similar but the hand and mindspace of its creator is evident in each one. We all enjoy looking close at rods and kustoms and discovering those subtle tweaks and touches that share a wink between the builder and the appreciator. That will always be.
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  24. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
    Posts: 6,175

    A Boner

    Black on black on black seems to be more prevalent as of black on red on white is looking real refreshing!
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  25. davidvillajr
    Joined: Apr 4, 2005
    Posts: 1,014


    Sure, it's "cookie cutter" - but who DOESN'T like cookies every now and then?!

    It's a sweet little machine.
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  26. [Mister Pines Purple House...]

    Just wondering how this black on red tradition got started...
    There were 4.3 million model B's produced in these available colors:
    black, grey, dark blue, dark green, dark maroon, dark brown, and vermillion
    Are we saying that only the guys that had the black ones hot rodded them?
    Are we saying that everyone that hot rodded them painted them black? i thought the choice between speed parts and paint was clear for a hot rodder back in the day....
    Or, looking back through a black and white lens did they all just look black?
    Also, when did finely stitched red leather replace the factory mohair or Indian blanket in these traditional hot rods?
  27. Automotive Stud
    Joined: Sep 26, 2004
    Posts: 4,173

    Automotive Stud

    Thanks to John for the fantastic pictures and Ryan for the nice writeup, I'm glad you really enjoyed it. From day one I didn't want a ground breaking car, I wanted the quintessential highboy roadster. I'm glad to see that some of my details still showed up in the photographs. I'm no professional but I did the best I can do and I'm proud to say nothing was farmed out. Here's a shot of the day I brought it home in 2016. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good. 20160328_201932.jpeg

    That's my good friend Josh's car. We finished a body off on it about a year ago, painted in the same garage as my roadster. It's a 292 bored to 312 with a 4 speed. Josh grew up with his father taking him everywhere in this car, and he learned to drive in it. It's finished as a tribute to his father who we lost during it's resto, hence the name "Father Time" on the rear. 20171028_172355.jpg
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  28. Just like the ‘50s bro! Nice roadster and great images!
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  29. brady1929
    Joined: Sep 30, 2006
    Posts: 8,650


    Amazing roadster.
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  30. :) Love cliche, if they all look like that. Hell, I'd probably red pinstripe every body contour they did in the 60's .... like Tom Prufer would .... red accent every louver too. F#ck it. Get down with the black and red ....
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