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Technical DeSoto front shock question

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by Desototaildragger, Apr 25, 2020.

  1. Desototaildragger
    Joined: Feb 4, 2017
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    from Corning Ca

    Long term lurker who has learned a lot from the HAMB. I have a '48 DeSoto S11 four door I picked up after years of driving past it. I've been slowly (very slowly) been building it as a very mild custom. Just looking forward to a good solid driver to enjoy and learning as I go.
    Have a question regarding the front shocks. The front end is stock with a Scarebird disc brake kit. Looking at the original shock set up, the shocks mounted to the upper and lower A arms. I'm no genius but seems the compression as the suspension cycled would be very limited and therefore limited dampening.
    I'm not against modifying shock mounting points if it would improve the handling. But I also don't want to over think it and fix something they had figured out just fine.
    Any input would be appreciated.

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  2. choptop40
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    hey hey, make a upper shock mount to the frame instead..thats how its been done...dont have a pic...
     
  3. j hansen
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    Lots of help at p15-d24.com Skärmavbild 2020-04-25 kl. 19.50.56.png
     
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  5. Mopar Tony
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    Rusty Hope sells a relocation kit
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  6. Desototaildragger
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    Desototaildragger
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    from Corning Ca

    Perfect.
    Loads of help fellas. I was considering doing a relocation similar to the rusty hope ones but a little hesitant to start moving shock points around if the originals worked ok. Even though they seemed a poor design.
    Much appreciated.



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  7. Desototaildragger
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    from Corning Ca

  8. After owning my car since 1971 I decided to update the front shocks, the car, an Oz 1940 Dodge uses Moog cast steel 41-56 upper A arms, stock 1940 lower A arms, 1940 spindle, 1941-56 stub axle, original 1940 shape 1" thick sway bar and heim joints and relocated upper shock mount.......the upper mounts were made of 3/16th plate and bolt to the frame, shocks used were Munro with a 8.5" compressed length and 13" extended length with these numbers stamped into them, 1009 and PK14HA........the car also uses 1955/56 Ford coil springs with 1 coil removed.........the car has a 318 poly & Cast iron Torqueflite so has a little bit extra weight but the shock relocation seems to be o/k........apart from the shock relocation the front end has been like this since the mid 70's............I had these shocks and we, a mate & me decided to try and use them..............the commercially available shock kits use Chev pickup truck front shocks from what I understand as these kits locate the upper shock mount much higher than what we did.............I have attached a couple of pics to give you an idea of the setup.........if you want any more info let me know......Andy Douglas.
     

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  9. Rusty O'Toole
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    Chrysler had a different idea back then. Their Oiriflow shocks were state of the art, adjusted themselves for smooth or rough roads, and worked well to give a soft ride which is what they were after. The shocks work in and out much less than on conventional setups. Have seen TV commercials for DeSoto of about 1951 or 52 and you can see the front end slowly bouncing up and down like a baby buggy.

    If you want a more modern ride and handling relocate the upper mount to the frame and use modern gas shocks.
     
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  10. 41 C28
    Joined: Dec 17, 2005
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    I relocated the front shocks on my 48 Dodge club coupe with the Rusty Hole kit and it was no big deal. Running a 318 in it. Also I have an all stock 41 Chrysler Windsor 4 dr sedan with all original suspension the only exception is it has radial tires. It drives beautifully. Don't know if I would bother to relocate again knowing difference in the two.
     
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