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Technical ***December 2019 Banger Thread. Hey Santa!***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 330

    Jiminy
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    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
    December 25th
    Little Saint Nick Deliveries:

    Visions of NOS banger parts and vintage speed equipment dancing in your heads.

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    email: jimb4e4@gmail.com
    phone: 951-695-7313.


    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498


    Banger basics. another info link list:
    http://www.fordgarage.com/


    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055


    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/


    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html


    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461


    Helpful Model A tools and tips:
    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html


    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109


    Elrod's stuck head tech:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487


    Model A generator to alternator conversion:
    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html


    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173


    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465


    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    New Banger Block in the Works
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/


    Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
    http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm
     
  2. v8flat44
    Joined: Nov 13, 2017
    Posts: 305

    v8flat44

    On bangers, on flatheads, on y blocks don't stall
    Keep smoke'n and leak'n
    And Merry CHRISTmas to all !
     
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  3. Checking in. I've been tinkering on getting the Mitchell installed.[​IMG]

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  4. barrnone50
    Joined: Oct 24, 2010
    Posts: 516

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    from texas

    Checking in … Trying to get these Carbs working .. Have a little backfire trying to find the cause.
    The linkage will need a little tune-up just trying to get the backfire to go away!! burns2.jpg
     
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  5. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
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    Vacuum leak at carbs base?
     
  6. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 3,352

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    from Colorado

  7. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
    Posts: 960

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    checking in last time this year..........Damn
     
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  8. wheeltramp brian
    Joined: Jun 11, 2010
    Posts: 835

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    Checking in.snowed here in Lake hughes 20191128_125323.jpg
     
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  9. Jet96
    Joined: Dec 24, 2012
    Posts: 1,013

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    from WY

    A cold and snowy check-in from the Rocky Mountains....
    -Passenger door lined up better on the pickup, wood all back in and tightened down, start the roof material later today ...after the shop warms up!
     
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  10. rwrj
    Joined: Jan 30, 2009
    Posts: 505

    rwrj
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    from SW Ga

    I am getting ready to install this new (to me, got it on the classifieds here from Lake_Harley) Brierley "C" camshaft, new adjustable lifters, aluminum gear, and new springs.

    IMG_20191124_085805902.jpg
     
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  11. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
    Posts: 1,618

    Binger
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    from wyoming

    Checking in for the month. Not much banger news in the Binger shop. Its been cold and snowy and I have been working on my '50 Chevy convertible. Sorry its not banger friendly. haha
     
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  12. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
    Posts: 1,653

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    Checking in...been doing some more stitching...my life away...
    It is a B block that has been inserted so I'd like to keep it and use it. Number three son Rodney tried to window the block as he left the scene. I think I got it....I usually am only good for 20-25 stitches at a time. I pushed today and the result was I got the cut off wheel into the block not once but twice...I hate that...oh well some paint, dirt and oil will make them disappear... IMG_20191201_115206319.jpeg IMG_20191201_131727087.jpeg

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  13. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 237

    railcarmover

    [​IMG]
    Piddling around on the bench..engine/trans ready to pull for a few items on the 'punch list' prior to body mount,which is done,under a tarp..
     
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  14. Kroil oil is the best!

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  15. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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    That's because you haven't used JB80
     
  16. Your right but I'm Googling now, lol.

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  17. Dustyp489
    Joined: Feb 1, 2008
    Posts: 92

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    Checking in. Hope to get working on the fuel pump relocation m
     
  18. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 237

    railcarmover

    Kroil is meh,this is the good weasel piss right here
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Jet96
    Joined: Dec 24, 2012
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    winduptoy- that's some good work there. What are you stitching with? I got some lock n stitch pins a while back for a v8 project but haven't used them yet.
     
  20. seb fontana
    Joined: Sep 1, 2005
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    seb fontana
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    from ct

    I have used Eutectic 22 with Heli Arc..Only weld short lengths and keep block temp below 150° or so by stopping often..
     
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  21. Weasel piss?? Thats a new one to me.....
     
  22. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 237

    railcarmover

    Old tool pusher I worked for called it that. . the old cob,he cussed every other word,that old school cussin,make a stevedore blush. He was always good for a bottle this time of the year,when it got cold in the shop,miserable prick never shared a drop,he just yelled louder.
     
  23. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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    I am using a malleable 10-32 screw...that is what you see in the one picture.
    I had an old hand show me once, he repaired all kind of stuff for the Santa Fe RR at the time and they used him up until he retired. The technique he showed me was to find the crack and drill a hole at both ends of the crack.
    In this instance, I used a 5/32 drill
    Tap the hole using a tap that has a long taper....you have to develop a feel for when the tap is going to break thru the finished diameter...you need to stop just short of that so that the screw binds as it reaches the end of the tapped hole.
    There are products like lock-n-stitch that have a tapered bolt that does the same thing...binds in the tapped hole.
    On things like 855 Cummins blocks that crack between the head stud and water jacket, I've used 1/4" malleable pipe plugs, they are tapered and tighten up or bind in the hole.
    I use Lock Tite 620 Retaining Compound on the end of the screw and run it in the hole, it is green, high temperature and large gap
    I use a die grinder with an abrasive cut off wheel and leave about a thread to a thread and a half protruding from the surface. Then take a small ball peen hammer and peen the material that was left kind of until there is no more surface left on the cut off end of the screw and flared out over the hole.
    Then drill another hole at the intersection of the crack and flare so actually you are immediately adjacent to the screw material that was just placed in the hole...when you tap the hole, if located properly, you will actually tap into the screw material so when you run in the next screw the two are actually mechanically locked together. This also gives the overlapped look of what might be a finished welding bead....or something like that in appearance.
    Repeat.....
    actually drilled, tapped and placed some screws in a couple of places along the crack so that the adjacent material would stay in place as peening can dislocate material surfaces...dependent on the length of the crack.
    Hope I stated this all in an understandable way....
     
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  24. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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    The only problem is that they sell it thru a Distributor...can't buy it in the chain stores or such
     
  25. Lottsa rain, no snow! I'm gonna go through the whole fuel delivery system first. Then start on the chassis. When I'm done with all the systems; we'll be ready to race! Photo by Tam McPartland
    2018RMMR(2).jpg
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2019
  26. Weather has been fairly crappy so I decided to install the Riley that I purchased last year. Pulled my Winfield motor over the Turkey day weekend. 4 port fell right in place. Just need to button up a few odds and ends and were back on the road. 20191208_124759.jpg
     
  27. Got my shifter knob![​IMG]


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  28. Checking in, bringing back a topic from last month:

    Is it the pin hole in the cam gear, that's different from A to B? Or why the difference?

    Would it not be best to tune ignition by use of vaccum meter?
     
  29. brjnelson
    Joined: Oct 13, 2002
    Posts: 430

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    The B distrib did not have a lever to change the advance, it had weights and springs........ so the cover pin location was changed to set the static distrib timing.
    Thank God they did not just move the pin detent location on the gear.
     
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  30. hillbilly4008
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
    Posts: 2,866

    hillbilly4008
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    from Rome NY

    Can anyone reccomend a good thread on T motors? Just picked up my first last week.
     

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